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Offline Skuzzy

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2008, 09:23:16 AM »
Any word whether Windows 7 is going to be less harsh to older, NON-MICROSOFT software than was Vista?

That is an unknown at this time.  Given Vista was apparently branched off of the Windows NT source and Windows 7 appears to be branched off of the Windows XP source, I would I have hope.

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Will those keys work with old XP disks, or are those connections invalidated too?

That is a good question.  I really do not know, but would suspect those old disks would not accept the new key due to a change in the algorithm that allows them to invalidate the older key.

Xp will run on any machine that will run vista.<snip>

Any desktop machine.  Laptops,...not so much, unless the laptop manufacturer has specific driver support for XP.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2008, 03:57:01 PM »
Linux would probably work on that laptop, you may have some problem if the wireless is a broadcom chipset but if it is atheros, you're probably golden!  www.ubuntu.com
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2008, 10:33:42 PM »
Chances are that it wouldn't install because it is a SATA HDD for which the XP CD hadn't the drivers. You just needed to install the HDD drivers at the beginning of the XP install...

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Ok, this brings up 2 questions I have.
I'm building a new system. And I have an SATA HDD. I'm stiking with XP. Hopely the next M$ OS will be better. But, with a new copy of XP,SP2, I will have to load drivers so that XP will be able read the HDD through the SATA contectors? And how large of a HDD I use with XP. So far, I was told that one person is useing 300gigs.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2008, 11:08:37 PM »
oh man this Linux is nice.
kubuntu 8.04 installed inside of windows like a normal program.
has option to burn and run from CD or install from CD. test drive etc.
the browser with it is ok too so far ;)
gotta test the rest to see if everything works. if it does, goodbye windblows.

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2008, 06:23:22 AM »
Any machine that runs vista will run XP. Someone wanted to sell you vista.
Like I said, I don't agree. And skuzzy said
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Any desktop machine.  Laptops,...not so much, unless the laptop manufacturer has specific driver support for XP.
The machine on which I was trying to install XP is a brand new notebook. Like skuzzy says, these may or may not have XP driver support. When I took it back to the store, the guy got on the phone to HQ, quoting my machine serial number. I could only hear half the conversation, but it sounded exactly as if he was being told that my system did NOT have XP driver support, but could only run Vista. It has a 200GB SATA drive, and like deselys says, I may have needed to say YES to SATA support at install time, but don't recall being asked. I did screw up one setting and ended up with only 127GB of my 200GB usable! - now sorted out using Acronis.

As for "someone wanting to sell me Vista", when I returned my copy of XP I received a store credit and then paid for Vista x64, which came to around $60 LESS than XP.

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2008, 09:15:28 AM »
When shopping for a copy of XP Home to buy what exactly should I be looking for in terms of product description to avoid buying an "upgrade" copy ect?

For example would these products be full copies of XP ready to install on a brand new box?
http://www.9software.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=WNXPHMCD&Click=5673
http://www.9software.com/Windows_XP_Professional_CD_p/winxpprocd.htm

Yes I noticed it says "full installation" in the product description but the price seems low for full versions of WXP. Why the low price? I saw no mention of SP1 or SP2. Perhaps that is the reason?

Also, in regards to Skuzzy's comments on old copys of WXP losing their old activation codes due to newly issued keys by Microsoft:
Is there a chance that buying a copy from the example vendor above that one may end up with an invalid activation key because it's an old copy?

I like my Windows XP.
I'd like another copy before they vamoose.

Good thread. Thanks guys

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2008, 09:19:48 AM »
The MB manufacturer makes the driver set for the MB. Which is the most important on connecting hardware to the board. You over paid for XP. You bought Vista you now have a subpar OS.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2008, 03:40:21 PM »
When shopping for a copy of XP Home to buy what exactly should I be looking for in terms of product description to avoid buying an "upgrade" copy ect?

For example would these products be full copies of XP ready to install on a brand new box?
http://www.9software.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=WNXPHMCD&Click=5673
http://www.9software.com/Windows_XP_Professional_CD_p/winxpprocd.htm

Yes I noticed it says "full installation" in the product description but the price seems low for full versions of WXP. Why the low price? I saw no mention of SP1 or SP2. Perhaps that is the reason?

Also, in regards to Skuzzy's comments on old copys of WXP losing their old activation codes due to newly issued keys by Microsoft:
Is there a chance that buying a copy from the example vendor above that one may end up with an invalid activation key because it's an old copy?

I like my Windows XP.
I'd like another copy before they vamoose.

Good thread. Thanks guys

Regards,
Sun 

Opps just saw the message on the XP Pro product description about the service packs.

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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #38 on: April 20, 2008, 07:04:39 AM »
It should also be noted that XP Pro is th eonly version of Windows XP with Microsoft support until 2014.  The reason for this is due to the installed base of XP Pro in the corporte workplace.  Most corporations will not switch to Vista due to compatibility problems with thier applications.  There are also severe networking issues with Vista that prevent it as well.

I wondered how the date Microsoft picked to stop supporting XP Pro got selected.  Now I know.  They wanted to be sure they could overlap with the release of the Vista replacement operating system.
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Re: XP disappears from shelves in June
« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2008, 08:30:07 PM »
how do you get Java to work in Firefox on Linux?
 only problem so far that I ran into testing Kubuntu 8.04