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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2008, 01:24:44 AM »
I had a similar issue with 234's over enemy ship groups with my new machine (about a year ago).

Had some funky graphic issues with 640mb 8800gts I put it down to those drivers being dodgy or corrupted on first install.  I went through a 2 week period where I played with so many different things I can't say which one worked.

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2008, 02:31:18 AM »
Well, tonight I tried giving AH first packet priority in my network set-up.  I wasn't holding out much hope and rightfully so.  Same result.

I guess I could try older versions of first the sound card drivers, then the video drivers tomorrow or I could pull the Nic card from the old machine and install it to see if that works unless Skuzzy checks back in and has another idea .

I have to believe that, in a way he's right; it has something to do with getting back the massive amount of damage info over those city targets but it's not connection (Internet) related.  As soon as I get the first packet, my connection dies.  This leads me to think that the onboard Nic's aren't working properly.

What a PITA!

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2008, 05:38:42 AM »
I think your problems have to do with Level3 being in your path along with Comcast's network packet shaping scheme.

I assume you are not behind a router, or if you are, you have already power cycled it.

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2008, 10:07:55 AM »
I think your problems jave to do with Level3 being in your path along with Comcast's network packet shaping scheme.

I assume you are not behind a router, or if you are, you have already power cycled it.

I am behind a router and have not power cycled it recently but as posted above, I didn't have this issue when I tried a run on my old computer which is plugged into the same router.
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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2008, 10:36:27 PM »
Once again, read my message about your sound card please.  At least try it mkay?
Physically remove it, then try.  (remove the drivers and software!) 
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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2008, 12:46:25 AM »
Tonight I uninstalled my video drivers and went back to those included on the set-up disc that came with the card.  I also uninstalled my sound card and it's drivers, verified that the on-board sound was disabled in the BIOS, then re-installed the sound card and drivers.

I tested on-line with the sound card set to game mode (I had been running it in entertainment mode) and with my grahics settings at application controlled (not a pretty sight).  It was better.  I got the damage messages for the first 15 buildings before I discoed (I have been getting 0-1).  This was in Bostons at 16.5K with only 4 bombs each.

I then went off-line to mess with the video settings (antialiasing, etc.) to get the game to look better and decided that, as long as I was there I'd try an off-line test.  While I was at only 10K and my flight path across the target was different, that test went off without a hitch, over-filling my screen with destroyed building messages.  This was with anti-aliasing set to 4x and antioscopic filtering set to 4x.

This now leads me to believe that the problem has little to do with my sound or graphic hardware/software or my net connection (as my other computer on the same router works fine), but in the amount of information handling allowed by my on-board dual network adapters.  As I turn graphic settings down, as tonight, I get more damage messages before the inevitable disco.  As I turn graphic settings up, as in my other tests, only one or two messages overload the adapters.

I don't know where to turn to try to tweak these adapters as the nview set-up only allows me to bind/un-bind them or to set first packet priorities.  I haven't checked the BIOS yet or for any Windows tweaks.  Any help?
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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2008, 04:19:40 AM »
Disable the onboard adapters and try with a card network adapter?

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2008, 04:39:46 AM »
Bald, by dual network cards, do you mean you have 2 in there, and both are plugged in??? (Sorry if this is a stupid question). That could mean that your machine is getting info fast than it can process it - causing it to drop both cards -
Try going to: Start > my network places > view network connections and disabling just one of them - then retry maybe?

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2008, 07:36:12 AM »
BaldEagl,
I disabled my second NIC in BIOS on my board.  When I was going through and cleaning it up, I disabled things (e.g. IDE) that I don't use and decided there was no need to have the second NIC enabled since I wasn't going to use it for anything.  I recommend you do the same.  It may not be your problem but it is a good thing to do.

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2008, 11:12:27 AM »
Bald, by dual network cards, do you mean you have 2 in there, and both are plugged in??? (Sorry if this is a stupid question). That could mean that your machine is getting info fast than it can process it - causing it to drop both cards -
Try going to: Start > my network places > view network connections and disabling just one of them - then retry maybe?

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Yes, there are two, they are both plugged in and they are currently teamed to act as a single connection (Nvidea recommended configuration).
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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2008, 11:16:13 AM »
Ok, may well still be worth disabling just 1 of them fella - you never know.

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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2008, 03:55:33 PM »
I'm curious, does that mean your PC is seen by AH as 2 IPs?
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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2008, 04:27:36 PM »
I'm curious, does that mean your PC is seen by AH as 2 IPs?

No.  I think all AH sees is my router IP.  My router sees the two bound network adapters as one network IP, even though they take two ports on the router.

If I map my network I see the router, old computer, new computer, laptop and network printer.

That just gave me an idea.  Maybe I should try re-installing the adpter drivers.
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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2008, 10:52:08 PM »
Recommended by Nvidia....for what?
Do you have a Nas device with 5 ultra fast drives in raid on the network with gigabit or dual nics?
Are you pulling down from an oc3?
Are you doing heavy client / server work on a similar unit on the other end of the network?

If you answered no to any of these, then the 2nd nic serves no purpose.

In short 2 nics serve 3 purposes (there are more but I'll keep it simple)
1. Load balancing (what you have setup)
2. Failover (one fails, another picks up)
3. Nic 1 Internal IP address (private network) Nic 2 Outside address (ie: web server) (although I don't recommend this - a dmz should be a true dmz)

I'm gonna bet you are doing none of these either?

Ok that said - when are you going to follow my instructions and REMOVE your sound card completely, including the drivers and software and LEAVE THEM OUT, reboot the machine one more time - then load AH2?
If AH2 demands you have a soundcard talk to skuzzy about getting around this but I dont think it's an issue.

You MUST remove some hay from the haystack before you can find that needle.  Disable one nic, remove the sound card and try all of this.
You may have IRQ conflicts, or - probably just toejamty sound card drivers. (my bet)

REPEAT - DO NOT remove it, readd it, THEN launch the game.  REMOVE THE SOUND CARD and do NOT put it back in.  Have a friend take it from you to keep you from trying to troubleshoot this game with a poorly designed sound card.  MAKE SURE YOU DONT HAVE ANYTHING EXTRA attached to the computer.  Remove ALL usb devices that you can live without for the time being.  Just pull them out.  Got anything else you can rip out of your computer that you don't need to use?  Rip it out!  Narrow the problems!

If you still have problems after this:
1. Run a memory checker / system stress tester.  Google for these.  Memtest86 and I think...ortho? are the names.  Be sure to have a smoke detector charged - probably no worries but just a little disclaimer :)  If your computer shuts down or crashes - then you probably have PS, MB, CPU, or MEM problems.  Run memtest86 again.  If not this, then you could try another PS first.  But it's up in the air what to try next.  I personally would rip the fan off my cpu and put some artic silver 5 down, blow out some dust and possibly swap some power cables.
2. If you pass all of these, make sure you don't have anything else plugged into the wall outlet other than what's needed to run your computer...then backup all your data....then, reinstall windows. :(  Honestly, please - let the sound card, disable the one nic in the bios or at least in device manager, any extra stuff and resintall windows.  Then update your windows, update your grafx drivers, then download and run ah2.  I'd be very surprised if it fails at that point.  If it does, I'm calling bad motherboard.  But my guess is IRQ conflicts / crappy sound card.  If you narrow it down to a sound card you could always try moving the slots it's in inside the computer.  You could try this first but it may be moot as your crappy soundcard drivers will have phantom hooks.  I personally would reinstall windows if I were you with almost everything removed.  Run bare bones and move up from there until you find the problem again.


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Re: At my wits end
« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2008, 05:56:15 AM »
You really need to shut off one of thos Ethernet ports and try it.  There is no reason to try and run bonding like that.  I can see it causing all manner of network related problems.
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