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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #30 on: April 27, 2008, 07:53:52 PM »
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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #31 on: April 27, 2008, 08:42:18 PM »

Karaya knows about Erich Hartmann, but not eric hartman.
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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2008, 10:32:42 PM »
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well.....guess i don;t have to look that up now...... :aok

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2008, 10:33:08 PM »
yes, he was.....as was eric hartman.....richtoffen died though when he broke his own rule, and became too focused on his prey......

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I am probably wrong, but didn't he die rtb'ing from ground fire....a miraculous, impossible, shot if I remember correctly.

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2008, 10:33:29 PM »
Karaya knows about Erich Hartmann, but not eric hartman.
hhmm....apologies for the msispelling?

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2008, 10:42:01 PM »
I am probably wrong, but didn't he die rtb'ing from ground fire....a miraculous, impossible, shot if I remember correctly.

it was a miraculous shot...but my understanding was that he was still chasing the sopwith, although i could be wrong.....either way though, he broke his own rule, and stayed too focused on his prey for too long....his normal style was to stay above the fight, drop, pick, regain alt and wait for the next oppurtunity......kinda sounds familair? i think they also said he was never REALLY the same man after he was shot down the first time.....kind of like that injury took the wind out of his sails. he was still good, but nothing like he was before..if i recall from reading, he also was given a hero's burial, by the allies. even though history paints him as a badguy, when it all comes down to it, he was just a fighter pilot, doing his job........and he was a damned good one too.
 
as for Erich Hartmann, again, if i recall correctly, he did spend some years running a flight school.   could you imagine taking flying lessons from the worlds highest scoring fighter pilot? the stories he must have had? we have a guy in our r/c club that flew ponys, and after the war got to test fly the 109's and 190's.........hard to get him going, but hwen we can, everyone pays attention to him....
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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2008, 10:46:13 PM »
I am probably wrong, but didn't he die rtb'ing from ground fire....a miraculous, impossible, shot if I remember correctly.

The ground fire theory is really nothing more then speculation that really cannot be proven one way or another.  Part of the problem being that all of the possible weapons used the same .303 ammunition, the machine guns in the plane, on the ground, even the infantry rifles.

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2008, 10:49:04 PM »
The ground fire theory is really nothing more then speculation that really cannot be proven one way or another.  Part of the problem being that all of the possible weapons used the same .303 ammunition, the machine guns in the plane, on the ground, even the infantry rifles.


i think they DID however prove that roy brown could not have gotten into guns range when he dove on richtoffen......he would've gotten his aircraft wayyy too fast, and he had to pull out of the dive while just over 1,000 yards away. our 50 cals in here MIGHT hit at that distance, but the 303 calibre i think never would..........that with the fact that he was on the deck chasing his prey, leans much more towards the ground fire theory......

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2008, 11:02:37 PM »
i think they DID however prove that roy brown could not have gotten into guns range when he dove on richtoffen......he would've gotten his aircraft wayyy too fast, and he had to pull out of the dive while just over 1,000 yards away. our 50 cals in here MIGHT hit at that distance, but the 303 calibre i think never would..........that with the fact that he was on the deck chasing his prey, leans much more towards the ground fire theory......

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Oh I agree completely.  Although, I would suggest using the word "prove" very cautiously.  Always remember that the bits of evidence are mostly anecdotal, very very old, and of questionable quality.  Distance estimates are especially questionable in this context. 

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2008, 11:04:06 PM »
1 of my dads friends was a pilot IIRC and he did pretty well at AHII. But he quit in I think 05.  :aok
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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #40 on: April 28, 2008, 01:15:55 AM »
Karaya knows about Erich Hartmann, but not eric hartman.

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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2008, 07:25:05 AM »
eric cartman?  :D

i was wondering when someone was gonna go there :rofl :rofl
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Re: Flying Talent
« Reply #42 on: April 28, 2008, 02:03:30 PM »
I try and watch what AKDogg does. He will never give you an advantage or a clean shot on him.
Same thing with Dutchie, I have DAed him a couple of times and I always get one shot, but wile I'm getting that shot and miss, he usually has the advantage by the next pass.
I found it just takes a lot of time and patience to get into a one on one fight with anyone. When I 1V1 someone It usualy will take me about 3 min. if they are not bad but it usually takes me about 9 min if they good.
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