Auto landing into carrier?

[Lusche]

      Like i said. It's a simple fix.  If a running plane is on the flight deck, the CV can't be turned.  If a plane puts its tailhook down.. The CV can't be turned until the plane is recovered.  That way pilots who wanna be admirals arn't screwing up the take offs and landings of other pilots.

Instead ignorant wanna-be pilots unwilling to spend a few mins practicing offline do lock the CV and thus sink it because buff attacks can't be evaded anymore. 

[SD67]

And how would you write the code for this to work?

[EskimoJoe]

And how would you write the code for this to work?

I thought the same exact thing when I read the thread title. Most likely, you couldn't. Too many variables and all that codey stuff. Besides, it would have absolutely no positive influence on the game.

Imagine a commercial...

"Now with the new Auto Carrier Landing System! Landing on a full-speed carrier has never been more simple!"

The squeakers would swarm in overwhelming numbers 

[Rich46yo]

When you can land on the TA CV, which is always turning, then you can land on anyone. Its just takes practice and patience.

Landing on CVs is actually a fairly easy skill to master. And the training tools, along with the trainers, are already available in-game.

The tools and help to make me better have always been there. Its on me for not using them more.

I'd actually call the CV landing model in the game as very generous.

[SlapShot]

Your embellishments to support your cause are just a tad over the top.

You can't practice dodging a destroyer that comes barrelling across the bow of a CV while you are taking off because some idiot turned the carrier.

If you are on the deck and rolling for take off, and they turn the carrier, there is no way that the whole CV group will turn fast enough to put a destroyer directly in your path by the time you reach the end of the ramp. If the carrier was already turning and you spawned onto the deck and then rolled, yes, there could very well be a ship in your path ... but that is the chance that you take if you roll, at that point in a turn.

You're ten feet off the water doing 140 miles an hour and here comes the Destroyer.  BAM !  It's OVER.  You can play with the rudders and ailerons all you want..  you're goin swimming.

If your 10 ft off the deck at 140 mph on final ... then you truly need more experience at correct aircraft carrier landings. I would surmise at 10 ft off the deck, you are 40-50 too low (at a minimum), unless of course you are trying to land on the fantail. I agree, you can use all the aileron and rudder control at your disposal and it won't do you a lick of good ... but I would add THROTTLE and ELEVATORS into that equation to overcome the problem.

[Motherland]

    Exactly Rino.  Real Carriers DO NOT make 180 degree course changes while aircraft are TAKING OFF or LANDING.   So it isn't the ocean in AH that's cartoonish, it's the carrier planes crashing, smashing into the carrier and plunging into the ocean by the dozens that are UNREALISTIC AND CARTOONISH. 
    Again. There's NO WAY to practice taking off from a turning carrier and i'm not going to waste my internet time trying to prove to myself someone can.   Put 1,500 lbs of bombs on a plane or a 2,000 lb torpedo on a plane and try it just ONCE.  You won't need any more PRACTICE than that to learn how to CRASH a plane.
     It's not about rudders and ailerons.  It's about Cruisers and Destroyers speeding across the bow of a Carrier at 40 knots because the CV is turning while planes are taking off.  And watching friendly aircraft smash into their own combat ships.  THAT'S CARTOONISH.

So, basically what your saying is, you can't land on carriers, and you don't want to practice and get good at it, so it's the games fault?
 

[BaldEagl]

Do as I do.  Fly a 190A-8 onto the deck wheels up.  Make sure to land slightly toward the tower so as you pass it catches the wing thus spinning you down the front half of the deck.  If lucky, you will end up with 1/2 your plane hanging over the edge of the deck although I can't guarantee which half.

Although I know this sounds like an amazing feat, it's one I can re-create at will.

[BaldEagl]

Never mind.

[RATTFINK]

I know you guys might find it a bit hard, a bit easy to land in a turning, or dead still straight moving CV. So i was thinking maybe add an automatic landing system on CV planes. Sounds good to me idk what you think so post your thought.

Not no, but HECK NO!!

The carrier should bob a weave w/ the motion of the ocean.

[RATTFINK]

Taking off and landing with the CV turning isn't especially difficult.

The primary reason guys crash when taking off from a turning CV is ignorance. Yep, ignorance. Fortunately, ignorance can be cured with some simple training. The biggest problem is that many want instant gratification and make little effort to learn. Practice is work and work is to be avoided at all cost. You cannot shortcut the learning curve. Either you take the time to learn all aspects, or you just become another gamer with no life expectancy whatsoever. 

One factor not mentioned is that guys who cannot get airborne from a turning CV are equally unlikely to return anyway.

Go offline and practice, or come to the TA and get instruction.

My regards,

Widewing

I and the rest of the VF-31 could not agree with you more on that one Widewing.

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[evenhaim]

If I of all people can rearm a 262 on a cv anyone can do it.

[moot]

   You can't practice dodging a destroyer that comes barrelling across the bow of a CV while you are taking off because some idiot turned the carrier.  You're ten feet off the water doing 140 miles an hour and here comes the Destroyer.  BAM !  It's OVER.  You can play with the rudders and ailerons all you want..  you're goin swimming. 
    Yes in real life situations CV's suspended air operations while they were under attack and evading.  Everybody knows what happened to the returning Japanese planes at Midway.  And yes. The pilots were NOT incharge of the CV's evasive maneuvers.  Which brings up a good point.  Why is that the case in Aces High ? 
    Like i said. It's a simple fix.  If a running plane is on the flight deck, the CV can't be turned.  If a plane puts its tailhook down.. The CV can't be turned until the plane is recovered.  That way pilots who wanna be admirals arn't screwing up the take offs and landings of other pilots.

140mph indicated is plenty to avoid anything during a CV landing.  Dodging turning ships is a non-issue if your brain is capable of coping with planning ahead of time (if the ships are already turning) and the very easy stall characteristics of all the CV planes, especialy considering the hook resists pretty brutal landings.

All you have to do is approach gently with flaps out in a controlled descent towards the cables.  It sounds like you're blaming the game (which BTW doesn't even simulate pitch and roll of the CV, nor stall departures as slippery as they really were due to wind and aerodynamics) for your inability to hold the plane at a constant speed and heading.  That's all it takes.

And in the very few instances where the ships really are unavoidable, well.. "poop happens".  If you come in to the CV missing parts or blacking out, that's just bad luck.  Lots of real pilots screwed up CV landings.

And a whole CV (and the rest of the TG slaved to the CV's reset) are worth more than a single plane.  It'll turn if it has to.

[OSU]

   I agree with Valerio.

You do?

       The fix is SIMPLE.  If a running plane is on the flightdeck..  The Carrier waits to execute any course change until the plane takes off.  If a plane drops it's tail hook... the same thing happens.   The CV doesn't change course until the plane has landed and shut it's engine off.
   

The consequence is SIMPLE. The carrier is sunk by some lanc because noobs don't want to do some thing that is VERY easy to do, if you have patience and if you practice. Have you ever heard of offline practice? You can control the carrier there, and if you crash, you don't get penalized.

[RATTFINK]

If I of all people can rearm a 262 on a cv anyone can do it.

You've got that right...

[TonyJoey]

Just like the majority of the thread has been saying, take some time to practice and you'll get the hang of it. I don't even think about if a cv is turning or not I just put it on the deck ( one way or another ).