net status

[dkff49]

Not sure what is going on here but.

I checked the box in videol settings for preloading skins and preloading textures. Now when I open net status in game it shows nothing. Is this supposed to be this way?

I am still messing around with settings trying to get my laptop to play game without warping. I can play offline very well. Offline I have 60 FPS steady whether I am in ground vis or full vis. It is the same in 8 player LAN, when someone from work and I play. However when I go online FPS drop into 30's and 40's and have lots of warping. This happens with skins and weapon effects disabled and unchecking all the optimizing boxes and moving the sliders to get the most FPS. Each time i seem to gain a little but no holy grail yet.

By the way. The offline and LAN FPS are with everything optimized and no preloading and sliders are default from game? The online FPS is with all optimizing unchecked and preloading is checked and sliders are tuned for maximum FPS possible.

edit: just re-checked what made the change.

It seems that unchecking the hardware vertexing is what makes the net status stop working.

Also the one thing I did different this time compared to others was I went into BIOS and changed the multicore support to off. This did seem to help with frame rates seems to have steadied them. I even have the compatability mode stopped right now and everything seems to work fine in game except for offline still which still seems to have gotten better just far from ideal. Any thoughts on this change. Any idea of any negative effects that could result.

thanks for all that have helped so far

[The Fugitive]

Pre-loading skins is not a good idea unless you only have a few skins in your folder. With all the skins we have now you can run enough ram to hold it AND run the game. Pre-loading textures is ok with a couple gigs of ram. Post your Dxdiag, first third only is needed. List the in game settings your using as well as how your video card is set=up.

Laptops are notorious for NOT playing games well. Be sure to turn off any "power saving" settings.

[dkff49]

here is the dxdiag that I ran

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System Information
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Time of this report: 4/29/2008, 19:08:12
       Machine name: DAVID-PC
   Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
       System Model: Inspiron 1720                  
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A06
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T8300  @ 2.40GHz, ~2.4GHz
             Memory: 3582MB RAM
          Page File: 474MB used, 6871MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8600M GT
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0407&SUBSYS_01F21028&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1775 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 241 MB
    Shared Memory: 1534 MB
     Current Mode: 1440 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
      Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
   Driver Version: 7.15.0011.5669 (English)
      DDI Version: 10
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 10/4/2007 21:24:00, 4943872 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4747-11CF-BD65-F92101C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0407
        SubSys ID: 0x01F21028
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_C ModeWMV9_C ModeVC1_B ModeWMV9_B ModeVC1_A ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB

[dkff49]

VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {5A54A0C9-C7EC-4BD9-8EDE-F3C75DC4393B}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
                   {B338D50D-A64A-4790-AC01-475B64252A78}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,UNKNOWN) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled

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Sound Devices
-------------
            Description: Speakers / Headphones (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC)
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_76A0&SUBSYS_102801F2&REV_1002
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: stwrt.sys
         Driver Version: 6.10.5614.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 1/2/2008 00:37:18, 330240 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: SigmaTel
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

            Description: Digital Output Device (SPDIF Out) (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC)
 Default Sound Playback: No
 Default Voice Playback: No
            Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_76A0&SUBSYS_102801F2&REV_1002
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: stwrt.sys
         Driver Version: 6.10.5614.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 1/2/2008 00:37:18, 330240 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: SigmaTel
         HW Accel Level: Basic
              Cap Flags: 0xF1F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No

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Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: Microphone Array (SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC)
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: stwrt.sys
         Driver Version: 6.10.5614.0000 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 1/2/2008 00:37:18, 330240 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x1
           Format Flags: 0xFFFFF

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x2834
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 1/19/2008 01:53:42, 194560 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 1/19/2008 01:53:17, 5888 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/19/2008 01:49:18, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/19/2008 03:41:52, 35384 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/19/2008 01:49:18, 54784 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 1/19/2008 03:41:52, 35384 bytes
|
+ Dell Touchpad
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Upper Filters: ApfiltrService
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: Apfiltr.sys, 9/24/2007 05:27:26, 155136 bytes
| Driver: Vxdif.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:42, 100418 bytes
| Driver: Apoint.exe, 9/24/2007 05:27:30, 159744 bytes
| Driver: ApntEx.exe, 9/24/2007 05:27:28, 49152 bytes
| Driver: Apoint.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:30, 1499136 bytes
| Driver: Elprop.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:32, 102400 bytes
| Driver: EzAuto.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:38, 69632 bytes
| Driver: Uninstap.exe, 9/24/2007 05:27:42, 217088 bytes
| Driver: ApInst.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:28, 45056 bytes
| Driver: hidfind.exe, 9/24/2007 05:27:38, 40960 bytes
| Driver: ApMsgFwd.exe, 9/24/2007 05:27:28, 50736 bytes
| Driver: ApMouCpl.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:28, 696320 bytes
| Driver: DellTPad.exe, 9/24/2007 05:27:30, 5099520 bytes
| Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 9/24/2007 05:27:44, 1419232 bytes
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 1/19/2008 01:49:18, 54784 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/19/2008 03:41:52, 34360 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 1/19/2008 03:42:19, 54328 bytes
| Driver: sermouse.sys, 1/19/2008 01:49:16, 19968 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 1/19/2008 03:41:52, 34360 bytes

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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      Drive: C:
 Free Space: 81.4 GB
Total Space: 101.6 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD1200BEVS-75UST0

      Drive: D:
 Free Space: 6.0 GB
Total Space: 10.2 GB
File System: NTFS
      Model: WDC WD1200BEVS-75UST0

      Drive: E:
      Model: TSSTcorp DVD+-RW TS-L632H ATA Device
     Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 6.00.6001.18000 (English), 1/19/2008 01:49:51, 67072 bytes

i will post in a few minutes the in game settings and video card settings

as a side note though I think the problem is mostly the processor because I have 4 gigs of RAM and a 256 video card.

I also have processes down to 34-36 after running FSauto start. When playing offline I do not need to use the FSauto start and plays great but online is of course the problem.

[dkff49]

I game settings

Video settings

video resolution: 1440x900
Max Texture: 256
Max Frame Rate: 60 FPS
Hardware Vertex Process is checked
Preload in System under textures is checked
I did uncheck the prload skins and the  others are unchecked as well

Once in the game under detail

the following are checked
Disable other plane skins
disable weapons effects
disable vehicle effects

the following are unchecked
Horizon
terrain mipmapping
transitions
optimize objects
optimize terrain

object detqail is set to faster
ground detail range is set to .5 miles
these I moved intil I got the best frame rates since I was not sure which way gives best performance.

video card settings

Anisotropic filtering: off
Antialiasing-gamma correction: off
antialiasing-mode:off
antialiasing-transparency:off
conformant texture clamp: use hardware
extension limit: off
force mipmaps: none
multi-display/ mixed GPU acceleration: multiple display performance mode
texture filtering-anisotropic sample optimization: on
texture filtering-negative LOD bias: clamp
texture filtering quality: high performance
texture filtering-trilinear optimization: on
triple buffering: off
verticle sync: force on

in power options I have high performance checked which includes
turn off display never for both on battery  or plugged in
put computer to  sleep never for both as well
display brightness is max for both as well

just found where it says power savings mode and it is set to high performance as well with no option for off.

I will ist all the advanced settings in a few minutes

[dkff49]

Advanced power settings

additional settings
   require password on wakeup
        yes for both on battery and plugged in
Turn off hard disk after
        20 minutes for both on battery and plugged in
Wireless adapter settings
       power savings mode
         maximum performance for both battery and plugged in
Sleep
     Sleep after
        never for both battery and plugged in
USB settings
      USB selective setting
         disabled for both battery and plugged in
Power buttons and lid
         lid close action
             sleep for both battery and plugged in
         power button action
             sleep for both battery and plugged  in
         sleep button action
             sleep for both battery and plugged in
         start menu power button
             sleep for both battery and plugged in
PCI express
       Link state power managment
           off for both battery and plugged in
Processor poewr managment
        Minimum processor state
             5% for battery
             100% for plugged in
        Maximum processor state
             100% for both battery and plugged in
Search and indexing
        Power savings mode
             high performance for both battery and plugged in (no option for off)
Display
       turn off display after
            never for both battery and plugged in
        adaptive display
            off for both battery and plugged in
       display brightness
          100% for both battery and plugged in
multimedia settings
       when sharing media
          battery: prevent idling to sleep
          plugged in: allow the computer to enter away mode


the rest has to do with low battery levels.

As far as I can tell (and I am a long way from an expert) the power settings are as good as they can be, in regards to performance. This is unless there is another setting located somewhere that I have not found yet. I  have had this laptop for about 2 months now and constantly looking for ways to improve performance and just now found these adavanced settings. Thanks for your help.

[dkff49]

Not sure if this will help or not but I ran a ping plotter just in case

here is data as text and below is the image.

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 4/29/2008 9:45:00 PM to 4/29/2008 9:48:51 PM

Hop Sent Err   PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1   207   0   0.0   1  50   1  c-71-207-76-234.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [71.207.76.234]
 2   207 207 100.0   0   0   0   [-]
 3   207   0   0.0   9 157  17  ge-2-1-ur01.hanover.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.154.213]
 4   207   0   0.0   9 157  17  te-9-1-ur02.york.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.211.229]
 5   207   0   0.0   9 123  17  te-9-1-ur01.york.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.211.225]
 6   207   0   0.0  10 208  18  te-9-1-ur01.manchester.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.211.217]
 7   207   0   0.0  10  91  18  te-1-4-ar01.lowerpaxton.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.211.213]
 8   207   0   0.0  14 172  22  be-30-crs01.ivyland.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.208.34]
 9   207   0   0.0  16 152  25  te-8-3-ar01.401nbroadst.pa.panjde.comcast.net [68.86.90.10]
10   207   5   2.4  16 107  24  pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.philadelphia.pa.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.13]
11   207   1   0.5  17  61  25  pos-0-7-0-0-cr01.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86.85.14]
12   207   1   0.5  18 173  29  xe-11-2-0.edge1.NewYork2.Level3.net [4.71.186.9]
13   207   1   0.5  18 231  35  ae-23-79.car3.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.16.69]
14   207   0   0.0  19 293  54  att-level3-oc192.NewYork1.Level3.net [4.68.127.150]
15   207   1   0.5  59 295  69  tbr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.123.3.61]
16   207   1   0.5  58 250  67  cr2.n54ny.ip.att.net [12.122.16.205]
17   207   0   0.0  59 204  66  cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.3.38]
18   207   0   0.0  59 158  67  cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.1.173]
19   207   0   0.0  58 184  66  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
20   207   0   0.0  59 218  67  tbr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.18.214]
21   207   1   0.5  59 235  74  br2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.213]
22   207   0   0.0  59 189  67  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
23   207   2   1.0  60 705  94  mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.250]
24   207   0   0.0  59 297  67  [206.16.60.39]




here is the file that the ping plotter saved as well

http://files.filefront.com/206166039pp2/;10104861;/fileinfo.html

thank you

[Skuzzy]

Oh my.  Look at the number of hops you go through all in Comcast's network!  That's just poor networking structure right there.  I suspect it has to do with Comcast's packet shaping scheme they use which is more than just packet shaping.

Either that or they are tryng to consolidate thier access points to the Internet to reduce cost.

Or they just screwed up thier own routing tables.

I all the above, contact them about it.  And good luck.

[dkff49]

I am sure that Comcast is not helping things any. I really do not like Comcast much but without any phone jacks or lines exposed inside the house there is not much I can do. Unless I break down and run some. I am sure I read somewhere that wireless or satellite broadband is worse.

Not really sure here, but if it was the internet that is causing my problem wouldn't this show up in my desktop as well.

I will try this again here at work later on. They are on DSL though I am not sure which carrier.

[Skuzzy]

It does show up on your 'desktop' browsing, but is hidden from you by retries.  The game cannot retry and depends on packets being delivered in a timely manner.  Being real-time is the difference.

[dkff49]

sorry i think i may have mislead you.

I was trying to say that wouldn't I also be seeing the problems with my desktop computer. The warping and irradic frame rates.

out of curiosity though #2 says that there is 100% packet loss wouldn't that mean that I am receiving nothing which would keep me from getting anything during gameplay?

[dkff49]

here is the pingplot from at work




here is text

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 4/30/2008 9:57:25 AM to 4/30/2008 10:00:54 AM

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg  Host Name / [IP]
 1   207   0 0.0   1   2   1  dslrouter [192.168.1.1]
 2   207   0 0.0  28  67  30  L100.DSL-01.HRBGPA.verizon-gni.net [71.114.128.1]
 3   207   0 0.0  28  63  30  P1-0.LCR-02.HRBGPA.verizon-gni.net [130.81.34.22]
 4   207   0 0.0  39 148  44  P1-3.LCR-02.WASHDC.verizon-gni.net [130.81.28.10]
 5   207   0 0.0  39 110  42  0.so-7-1-0.XL4.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.39.165]
 6   207   0 0.0  39  85  42  0.ge-7-1-0.BR2.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.41.161]
 7   207   0 0.0  40 376  66  [192.205.35.37]
 8   207   2 1.0  88 329  92  tbr1.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.123.8.98]
 9   207   1 0.5  87 283  92  cr2.wswdc.ip.att.net [12.122.16.29]
10   207   1 0.5  88 236  92  cr1.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.1.173]
11   207   0 0.0  81 190  84  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.28.174]
12   207   0 0.0  88 313  94  tbr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.18.206]
13   207   0 0.0  79 265  91  br2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.16.213]
14   207   0 0.0  86 220  90  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
15   207   6 2.9  87 824 150  mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-2-2.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.218]
16   207   0 0.0  86 297  91  [206.16.60.39]

I still have same problems here at work as well. same warping and irradic frame rates.