Lethal Street Fighting

[Yknurd]

Glad to hear you are okay Storch.

[moot]

Storch why not improvise a better belt release system?  IIRC you have access to tooling machinery, and it wouldn't be a big project.

[bongaroo]

I just think the chances of you needing no seatbelt to defend yourself are outweighed by the need in a severe crash.  My friend isn't around now because of this same decision your making.

[AWMac]

I really, really don't like you AWMac, but that was darn funnay!

C'mon you know you like me Drunky.
 

[CAP1]

I just think the chances of you needing no seatbelt to defend yourself are outweighed by the need in a severe crash.  My friend isn't around now because of this same decision your making.

agreed. i AM only around because, as i was leaving work one day about 7 years ago, i realized i hadn't buckled up, so i stopped, and put m belt on. 2 miles down the road, a lady in a saturn used me and my beautiful 12 second mustang to test the laws of physics. she crossed the center line, and i almost managed to dodge her. it totaled both cars. i was fine. she wasnt wearing her belt, and even with the airbag in hers, she still hit the windshield rather hard.

storch.....i've said bad things bout ya in the past dude, but please DON'T let this single incident make you stop wearing your belt. chances of it happening again are slim and none. chances of being involved in an accident that ou'll need it in? probably in the 50-50 range these days.

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[Gunthr]

Our experiences form our opinions, and naturally, if you live where there is little violent crime, you will not identify much with this post.  If you have to live and operate daily in an area where you have to be alert, like Storch's work area, it is different from much of the USA, and most of us here would experience culture shock. 

I'm not macho... the opposite - I'd just like to impart my personal knowledge and experience of fighting on the cement until muscle failure, and getting my bell rung, and remind our older friends that you only have so much time to win.  If you are over 50, you just can't last long.

So do it fast, even if you are seeing stars, before you get tired out.   

If you want to "victimproof" yourself, think about it ahead of time.  This is your best bet to survive, but there are no guarentees.  Thats it.

[CAP1]

Our experiences form our opinions, and naturally, if you live where there is little violent crime, you will not identify much with this post.  If you have to live and operate daily in an area where you have to be alert, like Storch's work area, it is different from much of the USA, and most of us here would experience culture shock. 

I'm not macho... the opposite - I'd just like to impart my personal knowledge and experience of fighting on the cement until muscle failure, and getting my bell rung, and remind our older friends that you only have so much time to win.  If you are over 50, you just can't last long.

So do it fast, even if you are seeing stars, before you get tired out.   

If you want to "victimproof" yourself, think about it ahead of time.  This is your best bet to survive, but there are no guarentees.  Thats it.

what you're saying is very true. for an idea though of where i live, i live in southern new jersey(commonly reffered to as the PRNJ). the town i live in, although going downhill, is sitll nice. the section i live in i can still sleep with my doors unlocked and/or opened. so far.  8 miles from me is camden. i'm pretty sure most of you have heard of that city, as i believe it once held the title of the most dangerous city in the country. when i used to tow, i did go into there a lot. i've been to parts of philly that, given the choice, i'd go to a combat zone in the sandbox first. i'm 46, and have been around this area most of my life. going into these areas is no culture shock for me. i DO however often wonder just WHY people that have to live there destroy things, mutilate them etc. i've been lucky to not ever have storches situation arise. the one time i did think something fishy was about to happen, they though they boxed me in, but apparently underestimated the skinny white dude in the ford superduty.  i clipped the car that had me worried as i drove up the sidewalk, and punched the throttle. that was when i decided i loved the torque of the 7.3L powerstroke turbodiesel.  one of them followed me for a bit, but nothing ever came of it. didn't matter though, as my doors were locked, and my foot would have stayed buried in that throttle to get me outta there.

anyway, i still stick with my original post..the best way to avoid the need for this stuff is to avoid going into these areas.

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[storch]

storch.....i've said bad things bout ya in the past <<S>>

nothing anyone types to me or about me has ever bothered me on a BBS.  thanks for your concern just the same.  <S>

[wrongwayric]

If you are over 50, you just can't last long.

Gunthr you may want to check your figures on that one there! Do a search for the 70 or over unarmed WWII paratrooper vet that was on a cruise vacation that took on 3 armed punks! He killed 1 and subdued the other 2! People over 50 are not helpless, and most have life experience that will out weigh the youth advantage. Old age and trechery will overcome youth and vigor a lot of the time.

Just because someone is old don't expect them to be helpless and if they're a young punk don't expect them to be smart.

[storch]

If you are over 50, you just can't last long.

Gunthr you may want to check your figures on that one there! Do a search for the 70 or over unarmed WWII paratrooper vet that was on a cruise vacation that took on 3 armed punks! He killed 1 and subdued the other 2! People over 50 are not helpless, and most have life experience that will out weigh the youth advantage. Old age and trechery will overcome youth and vigor a lot of the time.

Just because someone is old don't expect them to be helpless and if they're a young punk don't expect them to be smart.

I run with my 18 year old son fairly regularly. believe me if he wanted to sprint ahead and leave me wheezing in his dust he could easily do so.  gunthr is correct, you have to conclude your business rapidly and yes treachery will help I'm sure.  I kind of wonder if the youths who assaulted me might not have selected me because of my age as much as because they may have seen the contents of the truck when it was open during the service call or perhaps the two factors combined.  I wonder if they might not have done something similar before.

[Angus]

fast feet and good balance help
Some muscle does too.
And so does complete brutality 

[DiabloTX]

Jack, I think you made the right call.  On the other hand I would have liked to have heard about you capping 2 punks that don't need to be breathing the same air as you.  Think of it this way; who are they going to prey on next and who's to say that victim (or victims) will survive it without any significant injury?

As for the seatbelt, that's your choice.

[Torque]

i would have shot a round for each punch just over their heads... in an effort to get them to drop their purses and mud their shorts.

[Airhead]

Im just glad nobody introduced any negativity into Storchys post.

I was going to but Skuzzy's been in a bad mood recently, so I decided not to. 

[AWMac]

I was going to but Skuzzy's been in a bad mood recently, so I decided not to. 

I hear ya. I mean after the server probs and Lumpy's remarks, Skuzzy will not hesitate to go Yoda on anyone.

You're the Man Skuzzy!