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Offline Shamus

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2008, 10:35:10 PM »
I wonder if he owned guns.

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2008, 05:42:17 AM »
i wish you guys would feed me something more interesting from time to time...something i could defend even. 

my take.

a. yah, right, you didn't think that would "cause a problem".
b. no, you are not an artist...you are an activist.  there is a difference you tool.  you ain't one of us.
c. whatever. like you aren't soaking up the little media frenzy which will predate your crash back into talentless obscurity.
d. now. if he would have been standing there pointing a rifle out the window...well then he'd have some boinking balls now wouldn't it?  now that might yank my chain.  and no...that doesn't mean it's a good idea...you'd probably get sniped yourself.
e. there is no e.  i remain non plussed.

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #17 on: June 05, 2008, 05:52:14 AM »
Why would an "artist" choose to target 2 of his own?
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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #18 on: June 05, 2008, 05:55:40 AM »
http://www.yazmany.com/main.html

Interesting...very, very interesting...
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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #19 on: June 05, 2008, 06:41:30 AM »
Why would an "artist" choose to target 2 of his own?

 :rofl  - not two of mine brother.  not two of mine.



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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2008, 06:46:24 AM »
http://www.yazmany.com/main.html

Interesting...very, very interesting...

the site is very well done...

 :rofl - once you go barack... :rofl

oh that's just wrong... :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2008, 06:46:39 AM »
Word!
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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2008, 08:13:49 AM »
Ok 88..  why is this guy not an "artist" and why is this not free speech?

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2008, 08:19:42 AM »
i have to retract that part.  i misread the article.

he actually had a show behind it.  so he qualifies.  my bad.  i had thought that it was just the window installation. 

i am all for free speech and i don't think they should have covered it up for so much as a second, but i also don't blame the secret service for checking him out.

that said, aside from a really cool web slick, they guy is still pretty much an uncreative tool in my book.

i don't think much of his "work" which is still pretty much a yawner no matter how he cuts it.
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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2008, 08:21:54 AM »
Hey look it's art and it's New York. Storm in a teacup.

Of course he knew it would stir up trouble. It is often part of the artistic agenda to challenge the status quo.

Having said that, who here doesn't believe that Obama won't be targeted by some nut job eventually? And Hillary? Both are hate figures among certain elements.  The Secret Service were bound to be hypersenstive to any suggestion of assassination. The artist is rather cynically exploiting this.

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2008, 08:27:45 AM »
88.. I have seen some pretty boring and worthless "art" being protected in the past.   Stuff that would not be even noticed if it weren't for the shock value....One thing about it... one mans trash is another mans art.

Is this less or more art than a crucifix in a jar of urine?

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2008, 08:36:40 AM »
i agree on the trash/art analogy. 

it's not so much a matter of whether or not it is art for me, as whether or not it is "interesting" art. 

it really isn't in my opinion. 

pretty standard college crap jacked up with a budget somewhere.

nothing new here.

piss christ was new only by context.  yes, it too can fall under the wide umbrella of art. 

was it interesting?

i suppose that is relative.  i saw it on display once.  it is a very large image. 

of course i knew what i was looking at, so that gave it a bit of gravity, but it really wasnt anything special either by any means.  big, red, well shot and printed peice of luxurious garbage.   i didn't care for it.  but i remember thinking.  how do i really know that it's piss anyway?

all it did was open a big ol box of none so sophisticated taxpayers, which ultimately helped him alot more than it ever harmed him. 

it never would have made the papers had it not been publicly funded.

as you know, i am not for government grants for individual artists.



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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #27 on: June 05, 2008, 08:45:50 AM »
Ok... fair enough..  I think that even tho you are an artist and I am not that we agree for the most part on this.  I have never really understood artists for the most part anyway... we all do what we do because it is what we are driven to do.  I think that too many people who are driven to make something get all self involved and want to justify it with the "artist" label.

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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #28 on: June 05, 2008, 09:59:08 AM »
i just wear the artist label because it is really the only thing that i have ever wanted to do with my life and it's literally what i spend most of my time doing.

but then, i have also come to find it best to think of it as a job.
...nothing more, nothing less.  nothing special about it, just as hard to pay your dues as doing anything else.
but it does fulfill me.  and i couldn't imagine trying to do something else.

besides...i've always found that most of the best artists really aren't all that strange when you meet them.
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Re: Police strip artists of 1st amendment rights
« Reply #29 on: June 05, 2008, 12:32:39 PM »
He got what he wanted. Exposure and attention. Had anyone here ever heard of this guy before he decided to demonstrate major stupidity in the search of attention? There is no way he could buy this kind of publicity for his stuff. Now he'll be popular with the "art avaunt guard" crowd who will come by to see if he dose anything else just as bizarre. If you can't demonstrate quality in your work, toss out the feces and watch the attention.
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