.50s on P51

[Serenity]

6x.50 package on pony never feels as effective as on jugs

Could that be the extra two guns?

[moot]

At medium-high speed and average distance, just a bit of shake from the controls or from the airframe is prolly enough to disperse the bullets enough to give the impression in the OP..  The variation sounds about the same scale as the difference in 50cal planes' stability.  e.g. the 51 is a lot easier to shake than the F6F or 47.

[Strip]

Two words.....closure rate.

Or firing window....

In a poni you usually have less time to fire and a higher closure rate.

Strip

[Lusche]

Two words.....closure rate.

Or firing window....

In a poni you usually have less time to fire and a higher closure rate.

Strip

That's the same reason why I can get the same number of kills in  a single MG151 w/200 rounds 109F as I can get in a 4x Hispano w/ 600 rounds Tempest.

Not that the MG151 is as powerful as 4 Hizookas - It's  just saddling up at D200 vs long distant snaphots against crossing targets

[AKDogg]

All my 50 cal planes I have set for 425 yards convergence.  Hispano's are also the same at 425.  Now the german cannons, if nose mounted I have set to 600 and the mg's at 425.  I feel the 600 setting on nose cannons raises it up enough that at appox 400 yards, it at same elevation as the MG's (cannon drop I figuring).

[Stoney]

I always shoot worse in the P-51D than I do the P-47.  The P-51 is always walking all around the target due to the decreased yaw stability that's present.  The P-47 is so stable, its like flying a turret.  Of course, I never fly the American rides with combat trim, so that has a lot to do with it.  Another is that the P-51 seems to get more stable the faster it goes, so a slow, AH dogfight speeds, the Pony seems incredibly unstable, whereas the Jug, for comparison, keeps the nose where you point it.  No quantitative evidence to prove these theories, just feel in game...

[moot]

Dogg I'm pretty sure convergence on all aircraft guns in AH applies to their vertical angle, too.  Or maybe I misunderstand what you're saying. 

[Cthulhu]

Dogg I'm pretty sure convergence on all aircraft guns in AH applies to their vertical angle, too.  Or maybe I misunderstand what you're saying. 

I don't think he's talking about the horizontal. I believe he's saying that with his settings, his cannon & MG streams converge @ 400yds, but the spinner cannon is still zeroed @ 600yds so he can still hit with it at range without any hold-over. Makes sense given the ballistics of the cannon. Actually kinda clever.

[Cajunn]

The .50's on a mustang or closer to the fuselage, so in that respect I noticed that by staggering the convergence (300,325,350 etc.) on the   P-51 it does a lot more damage. And because on the F4U's the guns or farther out because of the size of the prop so the convergence is usually a lot closer and all at the same point. But ya all the American .50s were Browning so I figure they all had the same rate of fire.

[wrag]

IIRC the 50s on the pony are set at different firing rates?

Thats why you have some rounds left over in 2 guns when the other 4 run out?

So you're NOT firing the same amount of ammo from the pony as you are from the f4u or other 50 cal planes?

[Lusche]

IIRC the 50s on the pony are set at different firing rates?

Thats why you have some rounds left over in 2 guns when the other 4 run out?

ehm, no. They all have same ROF. It's just that two guns have 130 rounds more than the other four.

[Strip]

When I am down to 2 fifties thats my cue to leave....

Strip

[VansCrew1]

Rogent read this topic started awhile back.

Read me

[whiteman]

I go along with the idea of not being able to track a target and walk the guns up and down the target like I can in F4U or F6F. I don't have much luck getting kills in a 51, mostly assists.

[Ack-Ack]

The .50s on the P-51D are the same .50s you find on the B, F4U, F6F, P-38, P-47, etc.



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