Oil crisis solved

[AquaShrimp]

The energy balance would still be: more energy into breaking the molecular bonds than released when forming the bonds.

I don't think you understand what an enzyme does.  It lowers the energy requirements to rearrange atoms and molecules. 

[DiabloTX]

Oh boy, this is gonna get real good!

***pulls up chair, cooler full of beer, and chips....pfffffffffffffffftss sssssssssssss, glug, glug, glug...***

[AquaShrimp]

Oh boy, this is gonna get real good!

***pulls up chair, cooler full of beer, and chips....pfffffffffffffffftss sssssssssssss, glug, glug, glug...***

He's a chemical engineer, isn't he?

[Holden McGroin]

I don't think you understand what an enzyme does.  It lowers the energy requirements to rearrange atoms and molecules. 

An enzyme lowers the lip on the above curve, the energy barrier.  It lowers the height of the guard rail on the curve of the mountian road.  It does not change the delta G, the height of the cliff you just jumped off.

The delta G is the energy released when H and O react.  In order to go back to the top of the hill on the graph. One must climb the hill by putting in more energy into climbing that one gets sliding down.

Enzymes do not repeal the 2nd law.

[Angus]

17- Threads started or posts made, devoid of commentary will not be allowed (i.e. links, cut-n-pastes, clicky, read this...)

Now I write and comment too little???? Ok, sorry, but many have the point, and the news were from Reuters anyway.
Holden has the same thought as I did there anyway, - How can you "split" water only to combine it again and gain energy while at it?!?!?!?!?!!
What is the trick? And is there one?????

BTW, Water isn't always .... just water.

And for Holden,,,look here :
http://www.tct.is/
That one is more like I had pictured some footsteps into solving the oil crisis. I know of the project for some years, and it's blimming brilliant. My computer service guy did the test-setup for them and he was absolutely stunned by the results. But the whole production and marketing deal is some heck to deal with when the engines are by the millions...

[Angus]

Oh, getting an item into the TCT thing, AFAIK there is practically no CO emission at all. A suicide by car+garage will be impossible for instance! And it will run for several mixtures, - not just petrol.

[Jackal1]

you knowwwww....that one where we're almost out of oil. the same one as from 1979, remember?

Yep, I remember. I was unloading a lot at the ports in Texas at the time. The tugs were being used more for water taxis than for tugs. They were transporting tanker crews to and from shore. The tankers were anchored offshore in large numbers and weren`t allowed to unload...........
.................until fuel prices reached the desired goal.

[Angus]

Oh, stumbled across this one.
http://www.runsyourcarwithwater.com/
Thoughts?

[Megalodon]

From Fuel Cell Today

"similar to the mechanism that produces hydrogen by a reaction of metal hydride and water"

I've read about systems that erode metal hydride in water, the reaction producing hydrogen.  What is not in the energy balance is the energy used to produce the MH.

There is much about this story that remains unsaid.  Magic does not exist.

Water is the result of a reaction of hydrogen and oxygen that releases chemical energy.  It is the result of a reaction, not the fuel for one. It takes more energy to break the bonds of the water molecule than you get from the combination to make the molecule in the first place.

Fueling the car with water is something called perpetual motion.  It does not exist, no one has ever repealed the second law.

"Similar"

"Genepax uses a metal or a metal compound that can cause an oxidation reaction with water at room temperature, the company said. Metals that react with water include lithium, sodium, magnesium, potassium and calcium. The main feature of the Water Energy System is that it can be operated for a longer period of time by controlling the reaction of the metal or the metal compound, the company said.

According to Genepax, the metal or the metal compound is supported by a porous body such as zeolite inside the fuel electrode of the membrane electrode assembly (MEA). The products of the hydrogen generation reaction dissolves in water, and the water containing them will be discharged with water inside the system. Upon the completion of the reaction, the generation of hydrogen and power stops"

http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20080616/153301/

Also I have been goggling the company since the article came out they now have a web page.

Seems they were taken a little off guard by the news coverage.

"June 12, 2008 Genepax was been invited to lecture at seminar "New Energy Source for Environmental Preservation and Dealing with Disaster" held at Osaka Pref. Congress Hall. 

June 12, 2008 Genepax was introduced in several TV News
�FWorld Business Satelite (TV Tokyo), Mezamashi TV (Fuji TV), etc."

June 15, 2008:
We are preparing an English presentation and demonstration for foreign press which will be held in Tokyo soon.
Scheduled to be shown :
Electricity Generation Module, Prototype Generator System, and All Electric Automobile with on-board WES for continuous battery charging.

To attend, please contact the following :
Jun Onishi [PR Manager]
Email: press@genepax.co.jp
 

By the color of the plates I would just take a guess and say its a  Magnesium/hybred "shell" with a natural zeolite of some type inside or possible synthetic.

Any watch lovers over there? Could go check it out?    

[moot]

http://www.emc2fusion.org/

[Fulmar]

I'm putting my money on cold fusion...
Come on Fleischmann-Pons!

[Megalodon]

Update: from there website.. they don't say what the reaction material is yet.
http://www.genepax.co.jp/en/mechanism/mechanism.html

[Saurdaukar]

We have more energy beaming to us from the sun than we could ever possibly use. We need to learn how to collect it more efficiently.

Last word is the key.  The cost benefit ratio drives all of this.  Solar is not efficient - probably will never be.

Thankfully, Mr. Oppenheimer provided us with an alternative 60 years ago.

[Baitman]

Last word is the key.  The cost benefit ratio drives all of this.  Solar is not efficient - probably will never be.

Thankfully, Mr. Oppenheimer provided us with an alternative 60 years ago.

It may not be efficient but if thats all we are left with??

[moot]

Last word is the key.  The cost benefit ratio drives all of this.  Solar is not efficient - probably will never be.

Why not?