You have to fly how far in the AvA?

[Stampf]

No, that is not what i'm saying.  What i'm saying is that there should be more diversity in AvA.  There is no reason why the Ava cannot encompass the "war", the strat bombing, dogfighting, hardcore gamers and casual gamers.  IMO having closer bases will enable casual gamers and people who either do not wish to spend 20+ minutes to get to a fight or don't have the time to so, to fly and enjoy the AVA arena.  Closer bases will not deny people from flying strat missions or any other organised fighting, it does however enable something for other pilots to do- especially when there are low numbers.

There is nothing wrong going to another arena- being told to go to another arena is entirely different.  It isn't in the interest of the AvA to tell people to fly elsewhere.

Maps will change will each new BoA.  Close base combat included. 

[Damionte]

He does have a point though.

If you were willing to fly certain planes you could get into some close base combat. Up in the north there were Axis strats practically under an allied base, so all week axis and allies were meeting every few minutes up there. As we harassed each others bases.

Actually most of that time it was the allies harassing axis bases. I haven't actually seen a single Axis Bomber all week. Just 109's and 190's.

If your plane wasn't stationed at the front though yeah this arena would suck. Some of this though will go to Axis, and Allied commanders. Hangers don't stay down long, and in this first round you couldn't take the bases anyway. So it turned out to be ok to move your fighters closer to the front lines.

[Stampf]

"I haven't actually seen a single Axis Bomber all week" 

Romulans, always the Romulans.



 




Hint:  Those Ju88 boys dunna want to be found.

[33Vortex]

But what evidence do you have that it's hard to find a fight in AvA? I consider it equally hard, if not harder, to find a good fight in the MA. Where a lot of people fly the "easy mode" a/c and turnfight themselves to death. That's not a good fight imo. For me to consider it a good fight, I want a challenge, someone who actually use his brain and not just his a/c to win. It's sad when you get shot down by a less skilled opponent who's in a superior a/c, but it's your own fault for giving him the opportunity! I think the worst kind of player is the self-centered ego stroker (applies to all people not just AHers). Close 2nd is the guy who can't tell the difference between his own skill, or sometimes lack thereof, and the performance of his a/c vs his opponents, while thinking he's the best pilot around. Thank god, there aren't too many of those nutters around. However, sometimes one is one too many.

[storch]

how difficult is it to find a fight in the AvA?  surely you are joking!  it is much more difficult to find a fight in the current AvA than it is in the MA.  furthermore there is now a huge incentive to play timidly and given the overabundance of timid players who now populate the arena the chances of finding any fight let alone a good one are about equal to finding the lock ness monster sipping a margarita in death valley in the shade.

it's a shame too because it used to be that one could log on and be in a fight within five minutes even if there was only one other player on.

[Jenks]

how difficult is it to find a fight in the AvA?  surely you are joking!  it is much more difficult to find a fight in the current AvA than it is in the MA.  furthermore there is now a huge incentive to play timidly and given the overabundance of timid players who now populate the arena the chances of finding any fight let alone a good one are about equal to finding the lock ness monster sipping a margarita in death valley in the shade.

it's a shame too because it used to be that one could log on and be in a fight within five minutes even if there was only one other player on.

Ah, you miss me don't ya storch? 

<S> Jenksie

[33Vortex]

Some people might actually enjoy looking for a fight. Imagine that!  Some people actually do enjoy the hunt!

[storch]

Ah, you miss me don't ya storch? 

<S> Jenksie

you have no idea how much    <S>

[Stampf]

Heh, I got room for ya Jenks. 

[oceans11]

Some people might actually enjoy looking for a fight. Imagine that!  Some people actually do enjoy the hunt!

WHat he said

[Jappa52]

it is my experience that most of the current crop of AvA players simply do not possess the skills to fight nor do they show the inclination to learn.  they are content with having non fights and then heartily congratulating each other for their amazing speed and prowess in evading as they successfully drop from 20k to the ack.  they will gladly drop from 20k to gang a single player if that player is sufficiently close to their ack and makes his presense announced.  the preferred number seems to be between seven and twelve to one odds in their favor and even if you kill two thirds of them and die in ack chasing the other third they declare themselves the winner.  I should post film it is hilariously funny but becomes old after three or four "fights".   there is really nothing there that even remotely resembles "the battle of the aces".  it is false advertising and should be changed to be more represenatative of the fact.

I have not seen this, actually quite the opposite. 

[33Vortex]

I have not seen this, actually quite the opposite. 

This is actually true, which makes what storch says... complete bollocks. 

[storch]

I have not seen this, actually quite the opposite. 

what times are you on? 

the last two times I have been on saturday and sunday last I spent my entire time swatting players who were diving from the airspawn and if I survived the diving attack I had to chase them into their ack. 

on one occassion we flew "escort" for the avengers.  we suggested to the avengers to announce our target to give the other team an opportunity to intercept and we were rejected.  we flew along with them any way but it was about one hour of complete boredom.  on both of those days the allieds were porking north toolsheds and the axis south completely avoiding each other.

on sunday I announced that I would be at 73 at 8k and seven members of 353 were perfectly happy to dive down from 20k and gang me.  after killing most of them and chasing the survivors to ack on several occassions we JG54 flew into their airspawn and naileded them as they spawned at 20k.  after two sorties (for them) they figured out what we were doing and they quit spawning at the airspawn. 

the previous day we swatted JG11 runners until we were bored from doing so and left the arena.  if these are fights in your opinion than it's your opinion.  in my opinion it is nothing of the sort.

[33Vortex]

In other words, you are just milk running your score with no interest in the outcome of the war. Switching side as you please, when there are easy kills to get, or to obtain information about where the enemy is.

[Shifty]

My only chance to fly this week was Tuesday evening. Jester and I launched from A73 and headed immediately to the blinking  Allied strats. Within 5 minutes we found ourselves engaged with 4 low FW-190s. Jester got one I got a PW, and had to relaunch. The pilots we engaged were JG-11, and Straffo. All were fighting hard, no ack running no running period. On the second flight I found a mixed bag of 190s, and 109s. I was able to down two 190s 1 from JG-11 and the other was Vanscrew, then I was shot down by a JG-11 pilot flying a 109. Great time, enjoyable fights. I've never seen a JG-11 guy run from a fight. They're just as skilled and just as aggresive, if not more so than any other Luftwaffe squad I've seen in here from any crop of any time. Thanks for the good fights everytime I encouter you guys in JG-11.
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