wow........it WAS about oil

[lazs2]

pretty simplistic but.... 

In the end, I guess anything to do with the middle east is about oil.. without oil they are just backwards barbarians living in the sand with a ninth century religion to guide them on their path to slaughtering each other and no threat to anyone...  not even Israel.

With oil..  they use massive amounts of petro dollars to fund terrorism and to allow their backward people to buy tickets to move and export their backwardness to europe and other places.

So yeah.. without oil we all could have just let them rot in tents stewing in their ninth century barbarism.

lazs

[mechanic]

some of us don't need, or want to rely on the www to educate us on reality, political or otherwise...sort of along those lines. just thinking out loud really, which is probably why it was cryptic or nonsensical as the case may be, relative to your post. does that make sense?

jb88, you should get that seen too

Ah well my original post did not suggest the life had imitated computer games. It was an imaginatiive way of saying 'we always knew it was about oil'.

[bongaroo]

when we clobber iran and get that sandbox stabilized we will have their resources returned to us as well.  maybe this time we will set up a democratic republic and not some despotic dictatorship or oligarchy and the people of that country may be able to enjoy what we in the west enjoy.

NO MORE BLOOD FOR OIL!  lamer.

[Yeager]

Force americans to stop using any machine that consumes oil for seven days and see how willing they are to succeed in Iraq, rather than surrender like osama wants to.

[Torque]

well... this thread is a good example of just how dishonest the neocon socialists have been.

[AKIron]

well... this thread is a good example of just how dishonest the neocon socialists have been.

Lot of name calling and disparaging remarks. I can see conversation isn't one of your strengths.

[Saurdaukar]

BAGHDAD: Four Western oil companies are in the final stages of negotiations this month on contracts that will return them to Iraq, 36 years after losing their oil concession to nationalization as Saddam Hussein rose to power.

Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP — the original partners in the Iraq Petroleum Company — along with Chevron and a number of smaller oil companies, are in talks with Iraq's Oil Ministry for no-bid contracts to service Iraq's largest fields, according to ministry officials, oil company officials and an American diplomat.

The deals, expected to be announced on June 30, will lay the foundation for the first commercial work for the major companies in Iraq since the American invasion, and open a new and potentially lucrative country for their operations.

Awesome.  Source, please?

[john9001]

Awesome.  Source, please?

so who would you like to service Iraq oil fields? Venezuela, Russia, China, or maybe you would like Iran?

[ZetaNine]

Awesome.  Source, please?

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/19/africa/19iraq.php

Total by way...is French owned I think...making this an american, brit, dutch and french deal

[Ripsnort]

so who would you like to service Iraq oil fields? Venezuela, Russia, China, or maybe you would like Iran?

[crockett]

Don't go there Storch. I don't think most people have thought it all out that some people around the world may not want/understand/need to be allowed free will and freedom to do whatever they think they want to do. They only need monarchy and theocracy.

Yes we spread freedom and democracy one bomb at a time. Seems to be working great. Now maybe Exxon Mobil, Shell, Total and BP can pay back the 4 trillion dollar war debit out of their profits rather than my tax dollars.

[crockett]

btw if you want to see the reason we are in Iraq, this pretty much sums it up right here..

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/view/

You wont find a better run up and explanation of what happened behind the scenes so to speak.

[AKIron]

btw if you want to see the reason we are in Iraq, this pretty much sums it up right here..

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/pentagon/view/

You wont find a better run up and explanation of what happened behind the scenes so to speak.

It started when Sadaam invaded Kuwait, not with George W. Why is it his critics always conveniently forget about Iraq brutalizing their neighbor and the continued 12 year nose thumbing at the terms of their surrender? 

[Yeager]

dont you remember, the bush envoy winked at saddam.  its all bush's fault.

[crockett]

It started when Sadaam invaded Kuwait, not with George W. Why is it his critics always conveniently forget about Iraq brutalizing their neighbor and the continued 12 year nose thumbing at the terms of their surrender? 

Yes and if you care to look into the history of his invasion of Kuwait. You will learn we basically gave Saddam the go ahead to do that, by telling him we wouldn't interfere if he attacked Kuwait. That was back when Saddam was George Bush Sr's boy. Regardless the first Gulf War was not the second. There was no reason to go into Iraq a second time he was well contained and going nowhere.