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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #60 on: June 25, 2008, 11:25:57 PM »
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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2008, 05:50:17 AM »
[quoteNikon.

I should add... I have a Nikon D50 that I bought 18 months ago. I could stand to upgrade it, but it works well for the most part. There are a few things that I dislike. The limited focusing zones, a more robust bracketing feature, backlit LCD on top, but no real show stoppers. It's just 6MP, but that's not been an issue at all. I spent some money on glass though. I've got a 18-200mm VR, a 12-24mm wide zoom, and a 50mm prime. All markedly better than the kit lenses.
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I got this camera also almost 3 years now and i still love it 2
Dough i got about the same cons like u.

U cant beat the rigid feel and ergonomics of a Nikon.

Canons have a plastic feel





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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #62 on: June 26, 2008, 06:00:18 AM »
BTW the NIKON D3 beats CANON in high iso and everything
these story about better CANONS are just past time.

If u look good u see more and more nikons along the line
And who wants to get up in the mass anyway

Im not a sheep :) I love NIKON :rock :rock :rock

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #63 on: June 26, 2008, 06:03:18 AM »
BTW the NIKON D3 beats CANON in high iso and everything
these story about better CANONS are just past time.

If u look good u see more and more nikons along the line
And who wants to get up in the mass anyway

Im not a sheep :) I love NIKON :rock :rock :rock


I hope it does........I spent $850 on the canon.......the Nikon D3 is five grand.  ;)

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #64 on: June 26, 2008, 06:09:08 AM »
The new D300 is also very good.
But hell all the technique, hardware is wortless without a good eye and feel for moment.

Both brands are good even pentax is, these days but i like the Nikon just best.
The have just better ergonomics and also look better and last but not least are more rigid especially in the consumer models.

The Iso talk is a fairy tale already unfolded by the D50
3 years ago.



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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #65 on: June 26, 2008, 07:51:53 AM »
hardly rip...

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Oh yes, that photo is convincing (and has been used/abused on the web for years). That event was sponsored by Canon.   :rofl And, Canon gives a discount to the media on their prime long lenses that Nikon will not match. (A good majority of sports photographers used equipment that is owned by the company they work for, thus the discounts to those companies, I personally know an ex-Sports Illustrated photographer who is retired and has mentored me. FWIW, he shot Canon because its what they issued him.  He shoots Nikon now. His opinion is both are excellent products and their camera owners compete like the Chevy/Ford debate)

Here is alittle history on the debate, consider yourself, once again, educated by Ripsnort  :devil :
http://www.camerahobby.com/Vignettes_Nikon-Canon2.htm

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There is an extraordinary emphasis on the sports and PJ market because it is so high profile and it ignores the fact that a majority of professional photographers outside this highly visible group are Nikon shooters, if they are not using medium and large format systems. I’m talking about the fine art photographers, nature and landscapes, and mostly the stock photographer. However, you do not see these photographers on TV every weekend at various sporting events or in the scrums around newsworthy subjects.

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #66 on: June 26, 2008, 08:02:45 AM »
Oh and white lenses are gay i love the military black looking Nikon gear.
 :rofl

really white bwah!!

Ripsnort  :aok :salute

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #67 on: June 26, 2008, 08:09:40 AM »
Oh and white lenses are gay i love the military black looking Nikon gear.
 :rofl

really white bwah!!

Ripsnort  :aok :salute


Careful now, not all canon lenses are white! But don't tell that to Torque. He's dribbin' Kool aid on his chin.






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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #68 on: June 26, 2008, 09:18:36 AM »
Still i like them in black better.
Those colors seems to do good on the asian market.

btw did u know that in Japan Nikon always had a bigger share on the market.
Because Japanese know quality.

Good thing both brands use stabilisation in the lens IS or VR

not like Sony or Pentax and Samsung


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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #69 on: June 26, 2008, 09:23:21 AM »

Good thing both brands use stabilisation in the lens IS or VR

not like Sony or Pentax and Samsung



how come is that good thing???

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #70 on: June 26, 2008, 09:30:20 AM »
I personally have no use for IS or VR.  An ideal shutter speed shooting sports is above 1/500 and at this shutter speed or higher, image shake rarely occurs unless your Catherine Hepburn. Motion blur will show up before the image shake will in the photo.


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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #71 on: June 26, 2008, 09:40:36 AM »
I should have used photoshop to lighten it.

better to use exposure bracketing and then post-process with a HDR utility (ive used Photomatix and the results were amazing) :aok
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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2008, 09:58:32 AM »
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how come is that good thing???

because it doesnt break the SLR Philosophy
U still see what u are doing because u don't look through the sensor.

In the tele it does matter also.

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2008, 10:22:14 AM »
Pavel, nikon can use old lenses, canon as well. But when come to pro grade  and new lenses other brands are rare or very expensive.
If you have time you can play woth old manual lenses, but when timing is important MF cant beat good AF.
Sigmas are not that good as brand flashes, special when comes to canon and nikon.( i had sigma for pentax) For amateur  they are fine.
Show me zooms for pentax witch can stand 70-200 f2.8, 80-200 f2.8, 18-200 vr, 24-70 f2.8  or canon L series.

Nikon below x00 series doesn't meter with old Ai or Ai-S lenses. But I can't afford such a body only to use my old Nikon MF lenses, some of them from old Kiev-19. I am no profi, just a lame amateur. I need an SLR mostly because I hate point-and-shoot lag, can't take "genre" pictures. And I am definitely not rich for Canon L series, or 80-200 f2.8.

Is there any way to use old FD-mount lenses on modern Canon DSLR?

Can anyone tell my why Nikon DSLRs can't use old TTL flashes? F80 could, D70 can't... Maybe just to make you buy an SB-800? I have a 1981 Nikon FG with TTL flash, 50mm 1.8, 100mm 2.8 Kaleinar-N and 28-200 Soligor zoom (surprisingly good). Now my co-worker bought a used D200 and uses my 50mm and 100mm a lot, but a body cost him (even used) two times more then I paid for Samsung kit plus Sigma 70-300APO. I think of buying something like 18-200 or 18-250 now, or maybe just a Sigma 17-70 2.8-5.6, and my bag will still be cheaper then his body alone. Does an Ai metering lever cost like $300? If I only could buy something like D70 with Ai lens and TTL flash support - I'd never even think of buying anything but Nikon. But now I can use Zenitar 50mm 1.7 with a $10 adapter ring, plus all K-mount lenses.

As for manual focusing - sometimes it's easier for me to focus manually or even by scale (my Samsung failed to focus fast only at night at the campfire when I was shooting through the smoke). Auto-focusing a 18mm lens at 10m is a nonsense, isn't it? ;)

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Re: Digital SLR Camera Question
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2008, 12:30:20 PM »
I love nikon/canon taliban match except it's the photographer 1st !

A blind man with the latest Nicanon won't be the best photographer of the world