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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2008, 01:19:54 PM »
Yes, the 'chute release will often be pulled by an explosion that blows the body off. The heat from the fire often fouls the 'chute. I doubt Scott was unconscious, the car went too straight. I'm sure he was partially blinded by the fire. But when Johnny West was knocked out at the same track in a funny car a decade or so ago, the car rode the guard rail all the way down, and he hit the same wall, just slower. Scott was steering the car and trying to stop it, I'm pretty sure from the video. They only have brakes on the rear wheels, and those are useless above 300MPH, the front tires are too small to have any real brakes. The back of the car bouncing is a sure sign of a desperate attempt to stop the car with just the brakes. A guy I crewed for did that in a dragster, because he didn't want to get out and pick up the 'chute. The car bounced 4' in the air before he got it back under control and stopped, and he was only going 170MPH. It takes me 5 minutes to pack a 'chute, it took me 2 hours to get the car safe to race, and a whole day to actually make all the repairs.

Most tracks like Englishtown are in a situation unlikely to be remedied. For years, unscrupulous real estate agents and developers have sold property around tracks to people because they can get the property cheap. Then they all go to the local government and get the tracks restricted all to Hell. They HOPE they can drive the track out. Half the time it works. Actually, all the track owners and racers should get together and start filing class action suits against the governments and the real estate companies. If the track can't win a lawsuit, it won't be changed, and it will never be safe to race those cars. If it can't meet the minimum standard, they need to move the race. That's not just what I think, that's what current AA/FC points leader Tim Wilkerson said Sunday. There needs to be a good minimum standard, and they need to stick to it. The moved the race at Columbus for the same basic reason, although the Norwalk track was better as well. Doug Kerhulas was nearly decapitated at Columbus due to the short shut down area, and he suffered permanent brain damage. I'm all for history and tradition, as well as keeping tracks open. But I'm tired of my friends dying because of substandard safety. The Kalittas helped us out a great deal with Scott Palmer's Top Fuel program, those guys are friends. Maybe I'm a little raw right now, but I lost another friend just over a week ago racing friend, but natural causes). Burying friends gets on my nerves.

By the way, as a guy who drives race cars, as well as who makes his living as a crew chief and engine/transmission/rear end builder, I'm sick of people saying "at least he died doing what he loved". That's a crock of crap. It's NO condolence or consolation AT ALL to friends OR family. A racer does NOT want to leave his death at the feet of his sport or hobby, nor does he want to take out his ride or anything else in the process of dying. I have no idea who came up with that lame oscar trite cliche, but it sucks, and it's a joke.
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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #31 on: June 23, 2008, 01:50:48 PM »
Yes, the 'chute release will often be pulled by an explosion that blows the body off. The heat from the fire often fouls the 'chute. I doubt Scott was unconscious, the car went too straight. I'm sure he was partially blinded by the fire. But when Johnny West was knocked out at the same track in a funny car a decade or so ago, the car rode the guard rail all the way down, and he hit the same wall, just slower. Scott was steering the car and trying to stop it, I'm pretty sure from the video. They only have brakes on the rear wheels, and those are useless above 300MPH, the front tires are too small to have any real brakes. The back of the car bouncing is a sure sign of a desperate attempt to stop the car with just the brakes. A guy I crewed for did that in a dragster, because he didn't want to get out and pick up the 'chute. The car bounced 4' in the air before he got it back under control and stopped, and he was only going 170MPH. It takes me 5 minutes to pack a 'chute, it took me 2 hours to get the car safe to race, and a whole day to actually make all the repairs.

Most tracks like Englishtown are in a situation unlikely to be remedied. For years, unscrupulous real estate agents and developers have sold property around tracks to people because they can get the property cheap. Then they all go to the local government and get the tracks restricted all to Hell. They HOPE they can drive the track out. Half the time it works. Actually, all the track owners and racers should get together and start filing class action suits against the governments and the real estate companies. If the track can't win a lawsuit, it won't be changed, and it will never be safe to race those cars. If it can't meet the minimum standard, they need to move the race. That's not just what I think, that's what current AA/FC points leader Tim Wilkerson said Sunday. There needs to be a good minimum standard, and they need to stick to it. The moved the race at Columbus for the same basic reason, although the Norwalk track was better as well. Doug Kerhulas was nearly decapitated at Columbus due to the short shut down area, and he suffered permanent brain damage. I'm all for history and tradition, as well as keeping tracks open. But I'm tired of my friends dying because of substandard safety. The Kalittas helped us out a great deal with Scott Palmer's Top Fuel program, those guys are friends. Maybe I'm a little raw right now, but I lost another friend just over a week ago racing friend, but natural causes). Burying friends gets on my nerves.

By the way, as a guy who drives race cars, as well as who makes his living as a crew chief and engine/transmission/rear end builder, I'm sick of people saying "at least he died doing what he loved". That's a crock of crap. It's NO condolence or consolation AT ALL to friends OR family. A racer does NOT want to leave his death at the feet of his sport or hobby, nor does he want to take out his ride or anything else in the process of dying. I have no idea who came up with that lame oscar trite cliche, but it sucks, and it's a joke.

well said, but if anyone or anything is to be moved, then it should be the people that have moved in too close due to cheap prices. they knew what they were getting into. thgey try the same watermelon near airports. you should see the crap they're trying around south jersey regional airport. and they're buildig another development right under the pattern..where we are making our crosswind turn at 500 feet for runway26 on takeoff.....or our base turn for runway08 on landing. wanna guess who's gonna suffer from that?

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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2008, 02:53:50 PM »
By the way, as a guy who drives race cars, as well as who makes his living as a crew chief and engine/transmission/rear end builder, I'm sick of people saying "at least he died doing what he loved". That's a crock of crap. It's NO condolence or consolation AT ALL to friends OR family. A racer does NOT want to leave his death at the feet of his sport or hobby, nor does he want to take out his ride or anything else in the process of dying. I have no idea who came up with that lame oscar trite cliche, but it sucks, and it's a joke.

   As a fellow racer I agree.....it's not right. He would want people to continue on and celebrate the happier times. However, leaving the world like that isnt something anyone would choose if they had the choice.

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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2008, 06:22:21 PM »
at least he died doing something he loved.
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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2008, 11:44:08 AM »
Yep you are absolutely right. The situation has changed but rather than have a place where an out of control car can stop without a major crash it's so so much better to just bury the drivers. Yep that's perfect sense there.  :rolleyes:




you missed the point.......

the track was there first. since something has to move, it should not be the track, but rather the buildings that were placed there afterwards.
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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2008, 11:46:47 AM »
CAP1, to use your own words "this train of thought never ceases to amaze me"   :cry

ya, i know it's over used...sorry.......
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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #36 on: June 24, 2008, 12:14:21 PM »
you missed the point.......

the track was there first. since something has to move, it should not be the track, but rather the buildings that were placed there afterwards.


Oh I got the point but this is not going to be fixed by a diatribe because it's not a "perfect world". You have to deal with reality and the reality of the situation is that there is not enough room on that track for those speeds any more, if there ever was to begin with. Now you can complain all you want and demand the other folks move their legally purchased property. The only thing that will accomplish is to bury more drivers. Make the choice.
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Re: RIP - Scott Kalitta
« Reply #37 on: June 24, 2008, 12:34:50 PM »
Oh I got the point but this is not going to be fixed by a diatribe because it's not a "perfect world". You have to deal with reality and the reality of the situation is that there is not enough room on that track for those speeds any more, if there ever was to begin with. Now you can complain all you want and demand the other folks move their legally purchased property. The only thing that will accomplish is to bury more drivers. Make the choice.


in all honesty, you're most liekly right about the speeds........i think they never expected to see a car go that fast wehen the track was built.
and, yes, i probably am being somewhat unreasonable with the people moving in nearby thing too. i got to deal with that when i was racing at atco, back in the 80's. got past it, and then started flying, and saw the same exact bs around airports. people complain about the noise a cessna makes, when their briggs and strattons are actually louder. o well.......i'd rather not see more drivers buried.......so really whatever it takes for the sport to remain popular and safe for these great drivers

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