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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2008, 11:57:58 PM »
Anybody here know what a frame is?
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Just for the uninformed... A frame is just that... a frame, but it is rather large and sturdy. the top of the frame is rounded to allow hands to grip, the frame itself is around 8 feet high and suspended from the frame are thin wires attached to small gangs of hooks.
The subject is stood on a platform and has his hands attached to the top rung and securely fastened so they cannot let go.then a cut is made around the both ankles, up the inside leg and meeting at the perineum. The hooks are then attached to the skin around the ankles, the platform is removed and once the strength is their arms gives out, gravity does the rest.


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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2008, 12:27:36 AM »
personally, i belive they should do the whole eye for an eye, i dont remember who made it, i know it was long time ago, but like, if u shoot somone in the head wit a 12 guage... then that person should b shot in the head wit a 12 guage

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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2008, 01:14:47 AM »
so if i was busted for being a street pimp what would my punishment be redman? 


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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2008, 07:45:17 AM »
Appeal? They confessed! This should be short and sweet.
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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2008, 07:53:46 AM »
Hang em in the public square at noon. There is much to be said about public executions. I wonder how many of these thugs would keep doing the crap they're doing if they got to watch in person their buddy dangling from the gallows?

The simple fact of the matter is this. In our effort to be more humane, we as a society have done NOTHING but ENABLE this sort of behavior. I blame all the left wing, touchy feel good about themselves, metrosexuals, for the state our society has fallen into. FACT: the world is a harsh and dangerous place. You want to survive, you better be ready to deal with the harsh reality.
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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2008, 08:08:57 AM »
damn zeta!    I got to admit that your idea has appeal and seems to satisfy both a lust for revenge and for justice and.. would would do for getting rid of an obvious threat but then....

My morality kicks in and I say... execute the poor souls and put them out of their misery and protect society from their sickness.

A confession freely given should make for a very short trial IMO.

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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2008, 08:27:55 AM »
damn zeta!    I got to admit that your idea has appeal and seems to satisfy both a lust for revenge and for justice and.. would would do for getting rid of an obvious threat but then....

My morality kicks in and I say... execute the poor souls and put them out of their misery and protect society from their sickness.

A confession freely given should make for a very short trial IMO.

lazs


I've discussed that issue hundreds of times.......and had people agree...and also had a drink thrown in my face once while discussing it.  I really do think it would be a great alternative to simply "killing" them.  why not allow them to help us fight disease? cure cancer? is medical experimentation over the top for these killers?  most people don't realize how LONG it takes for medical breakthroughs to happen...the pipeline can take years...first with animals...then over a prolonged time...with people who volunteer in prolonged drug trials.  this would greatly expedite the situation.  would that not be the ULTIMATE payback to society?

I'm also for taking government out of the prison business and handing it over to private industry...but still have it monitored heavily.  we are not building enough prisons, and the govt can't run anything right as it is.  For example... goodyear tire and rubber .... running a prison.......and when the inmates get out.......they will actually have real life work experience. win/win...and it did not cost us a penny.
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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2008, 08:35:37 AM »
Not to mention you can use the carbon from the ashes to blacken the rubber for the tyres!
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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2008, 08:37:44 AM »
Not to mention you can use the carbon from the ashes to blacken the rubber for the tyres!






Oi Oi Oi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

we need this kind of thinking in the USA
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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2008, 08:42:40 AM »
Or am I over-reacting?

There was a guy, his name escapes me at the moment, who was mentally ill. A mass murderer was going around at the time, and this guy was sending mail to the police with advice on how to catch the guy. Eventually they the crazy guy in, and had him sign a full confession. Jury deliberations took 1 hour. The judge said he would hang the guy if the death penalty was allowed.

He sat in jail for over 20 years.

Eventually, DNA evidence cleared him completely, and it turns out, he was just mentally ill. Go figure.

Kinda hard to undo that if he was executed.

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« Reply #25 on: June 25, 2008, 08:49:05 AM »
There was a guy, his name escapes me at the moment, who was mentally ill. A mass murderer was going around at the time, and this guy was sending mail to the police with advice on how to catch the guy. Eventually they the crazy guy in, and had him sign a full confession. Jury deliberations took 1 hour. The judge said he would hang the guy if the death penalty was allowed.

He sat in jail for over 20 years.

Eventually, DNA evidence cleared him completely, and it turns out, he was just mentally ill. Go figure.

Kinda hard to undo that if he was executed.




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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #26 on: June 25, 2008, 08:52:39 AM »
zeta.. I guess I am just an old sentimental softy when it comes to the whole torture thing.. especially when it involves government doing the torturing.

I just feel that they are sick puppies that are also a threat and a quick bullet to the head is the humane thing to do.

Now.. torture on a personal level?   depends on what I needed to know.  I would still find it distasteful tho.

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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #27 on: June 25, 2008, 08:56:29 AM »
Eventually, DNA evidence cleared him completely, and it turns out, he was just mentally ill. Go figure.

Kinda hard to undo that if he was executed.

Kinda hard to believe that two cousins are both having the same exact mental illness dream sequence too.

If you listen to what they admit to doing and do a bit of reading about how they were arrested and the evidence against them (they were driving the car of one of the murdered men and had his driver's licencse in their possession) it's pretty hard to believe they are both imagining this. I think they'll have the murder weapon and a ballistic match soon if they don't have it already.
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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2008, 08:58:03 AM »
zeta.. I guess I am just an old sentimental softy when it comes to the whole torture thing.. especially when it involves government doing the torturing.

I just feel that they are sick puppies that are also a threat and a quick bullet to the head is the humane thing to do.

Now.. torture on a personal level?   depends on what I needed to know.  I would still find it distasteful tho.

lazs


I'm not talking about hitler-esque torture.  I'm talking about the same things many poor people do now to earn money...subsrcribing to new drug testing trials.  I'm all for humane controls in the system.

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Re: Death Penalty for confessed killers?
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2008, 08:59:26 AM »
Here's another guy who needs to be put down.  No killing... 8 rapes, including a 13-year-old girl.  It would be nice had they taken care of him 20 years ago so this woman could get on with her life.

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