Ink's not even dry on the decision....

[midnight Target]

I told you that the SC decision would be bad for the democrats.. they are between a rock and a hard place... the democrats hate to talk about guns because they are forced to lie and say they are with the majority of the American public and the right side of the constitution on the thing and then they have to go back to all the anti gun groups and say that they were only lieing to us.

The issue is out in the open and they hate to talk about it.. the great messiah osamabama came out today and said that he now has reversed his position and now believes it was always an individual right.   So long as the government could take it away from you of course.

lazs

Obama hasn't changed his position at all. Why do you make stuff up like this lazs?

Q: Is the D.C. law prohibiting ownership of handguns consistent with an individual's right to bear arms?

A: As a general principle, I believe that the Constitution confers an individual right to bear arms. But just because you have an individual right does not mean that the state or local government can't constrain the exercise of that right, in the same way that we have a right to private property but local governments can establish zoning ordinances that determine how you can use it.

(from the Philadelphia debate in Feb.)

[VonMessa]

The filing of paperwork has already begun.  I can't wait for the avalanche of new lawsuits to come along trying to change/overturn some decisions and also, to see how creative the anti-gun folks can get in their desperation.

Honestly, the authors of the Constitution were not as technologically advanced as we are now, but were they stupid?  I think not.  Why would they amend the constitution to say that we have a right to bear arms?  So we know that it is intended to apply to the military/armed forces?   Hello......!!  We know the US Armed forces will bear arms.  Duh!

I don't think that they would have been so redundant to write the second amendment if it wasn't intended to apply to individuals. 

I'm pleased with the decision, but still amazed that the SC had to spell it out for so many people.

[john9001]

Obama hasn't changed his position at all. Why do you make stuff up like this lazs?

obama did a interview last nov. where he said "the Constitution did not give the right to have guns to individuals", now he says individuals may have the right but the govt can restrict the right.

the fight for freedom will never end.

[VonMessa]

To quote my favorite Philadelphian, Ben Franklin.....

"Once we are finished changing, we are finished"

[bsdaddict]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/06/26/VI2008062601753.html?hpid=topnews

amazing how the mayor of DC can be "disappointed" that citizens have an individual to keep and bear arms...  I hope this comes back to bite him come election time...

[lazs2]

MT  in an interview he admitted that he felt the DC ban was constitutional.. he refuses to comment on the chicago ban.. he voted for every gun ban and restriction ever put in front of him and even started a few himself.

His statement that he believes "in general" in an individual right but one that can be "constrained" and regulated is not inconsistent with the wording of the british "gun rights bill" and we know how that turned out.

It is also not inconsistent with gun bans of all types..it is pure gobbly gook as is everything he says.. it is meaningless and contradictory to earlier statements.

He said before that the DC gun ban was constitutional and now he says that it is not.

His statement is the same as if ron paul had said that he believes in a womans right to choose "in general principal" but in the states right to constrict that right....

restrict it to say...oh.. no woman under the age of 65 could get an abortion.

It is simple tho.. all he needs to do in the coming weeks and months is to say how he stands on other gun bans that will be challenged.   like in chicago for instance..

What is so hard in that?  McCain seems to be able to answer these questions in a straightforward and unambiguous manner.

He is simply lying.. just as all the democrat gun grabbers who take their picture in duck blinds with a shotgun  in hand just before an election are lying.

They won't get on the right side of this as carrel says.. they will simply hide the fact as well as they can about being on the wrong side of it.

lazs

[Bodhi]

If elected, Obama will do all he can to "regulate" and "restrict" our rights to bare arms.

[Elfie]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/06/26/VI2008062601753.html?hpid=topnews

amazing how the mayor of DC can be "disappointed" that citizens have an individual to keep and bear arms...  I hope this comes back to bite him come election time...

The Mayor not only expressed disappointment but said that automatic and semi automatic handguns were still illegal.....

[Hornet33]

The Mayor not only expressed disappointment but said that automatic and semi automatic handguns were still illegal.....

Yep and that will be overturned in the next round of lawsuits since the SC ruled that an individual has a right to own and keep in his home any weapon "in common use" .

Auto handguns are the most common types of handguns on the market and in use by the military, police, and the average citizen. The fact that he doesn't understand that an automatic and semi automatic handgun are the exact same thing is funny.

[moot]

o/t - if they are the same, what do you call those handguns that fire continuously with one pull of the trigger?

[bsdaddict]

machine pistol?  I always thought of that as synonymous with automatic handgun...

[Ripsnort]

This is one of those issues my party is on the wrong side of- like nuclear power or offshore oil drilling.

However, my party is able to adopt its stance in the face of emergency and public opinion and react appropiately- unlike the Republicans, whose policies are etched in stone.

I wish more people would think for themselves rather than let "their party" think for them.
Please, vote the issues, not the party.  American politics are screwed up because Americans let their unions, their party, think for them.

VOTE THE ISSUES, NOT THE PARTY! 

[bsdaddict]

I wish more people would think for themselves rather than let "their party" think for them.
Please, vote the issues, not the party.  American politics are screwed up because Americans let their unions, their party, think for them.

VOTE THE ISSUES, NOT THE PARTY! 

[moot]

machine pistol?  I always thought of that as synonymous with automatic handgun...

But IIRC they're just one mode of fire that these guns allow.  I think one of them is called "R93"?  I forgot the brand.

[Jackal1]

Obama hasn't changed his position at all. Why do you make stuff up like this lazs?

Phffffffffttttttttttttttttttt .
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