Author Topic: Bring Back The Grey Box!!!  (Read 249 times)

Offline recklis

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Bring Back The Grey Box!!!
« on: March 24, 2001, 05:28:00 PM »
Who cares about the grey box?  A serious thumbs up to HTC for adding a new level of intesity & realism to the game. Dog fighting in & out of the cloud layer was a fierce!

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2001, 06:50:00 AM »
Don't bring back the grey box because it looked crap.

Nice idea though.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2001, 08:39:00 AM »
Personally i think the grey box looked crap from outside, and HTC seemed to be getting a lot of adverse reaction from dweebs who cannot see further than the end of there nose.
But once you fought in around and above it, personally i could forgive how it looked from outside.
It totally transforms the game is more realistic and fun and is a great aircraft leveller.
For those who have problems with it remember it was only a small portion of the map covered at any time which means plenty of other places to fly.
Bring it back to the MA asap  

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2001, 10:02:00 AM »
"...It totally transforms the game is more realistic and fun and is a great aircraft leveller...".

For a lot of people it was so dark, it was impossible to see.  I don't know how realistic that is, but then again I've never flown in a monsoon.  

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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2001, 12:21:00 PM »
Me either Bowser, but I've driven my car in thunderstorms and not been able to see the car in front of me.  I dont see why you would expect to be able to see from a plane.

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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2001, 12:59:00 PM »
fatty, i bet you put the pedal to the floor too.  i like the clouds (gray box and all) just not the way they were implemented.  i mean it was just one huge square assed cloud mass over the water. i dont have much else to say, cause it all seems too obvious.

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2001, 01:12:00 PM »
Yeah, it did, nobody can argue that.  I was talking more about when it finally gets fixed and comes back, there will be the no-see complaints again.

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2001, 01:26:00 PM »
The problems is, visibility in the clouds (and night) isn't the same for everybody.

I wouldn't mind it at all if everyone was handicapped equally.  However, that isn't the case in AH.

In the clounds and at night, I can't see ANYTHING outside my plane; I would auger without watching the altimiter.  However, other people can still see well enough to track me and shoot me.  

That sucks for an online game.  

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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2001, 03:14:00 PM »
Bring it back, at least it broke up the monotony. Can't see in it? Then DON'T FLY IN IT.

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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2001, 06:49:00 PM »
If you can't see then go and adjust your gamma. Don't know how to do this? Well ask someone, not me though.  But I did have another game where in dark I ran into trees. They had a gamma adjust in the options area and suddenly poof I could see in the dark as well as anyone else.  You will, however, need to draw the curtains if playing in daytime I have found.  Maybe I could adjust mygamma some too heh.  As for the clouds in general I like the concept though it needed to be tweaked to look good.  As far as fighting in the clouds being real, well most of the fighters in this game were not all weather and did not fly in this stuff. And if you want to know what it was like to fly into a thunderhead go read Saburo Sakais autobiography. He went in one end came out the other several thousand feet lower and without his engine cowling (and upside down if I recall correctly).  Need to add buffeting in storm clouds at least as a random factor.  Then again my RAF night bomber (Halifax) friend tells of a run in and out in terrible weather, but was clear at target (as they said it would be). So not all planes stayed out of weather.

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2001, 07:18:00 PM »
Fatty,
You may have missed my point.  I don't think HTC was trying to simulate a "monsoon", he was trying to simulate the shadow effects of cloud cover, no direct sunlight.  That's why you see the complaints of "too dark" for what he's trying to simulate.  Why would he try and simulate heavy rainfall conditions?  If people like it because they can hide, great, use the clouds..but underneath the clouds you should be able to see.  For many, if you can't see, you can't fight.  I think HTC realizes this and is trying to fix things so it's flyable for everybody.
And yes, I know how to adjust my gamma settings.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2001, 07:54:00 PM »
"If you can't see then go and adjust your gamma. Don't know how to do this? Well ask someone, not me though"


Not all of us are ignorant.  You shouldn't assume we are.  

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