The collision model SUCKS I hate it.

[Motherland]

If you don't collide with the other guys plane on your screen you don't take any damage. So, I see no problem. Just worry about yourself and you're fine. I've found that this attitude actually has seemed to result in more instances where the enemy takes damage and I don't- funny how things turn out.

This is simply the best way it could work. Once you accept that and decide to just live with it you'll be much better off.

[Lusche]

Lusche, excellent job with the "tricky editing"!   


That film needs to be stickied and posted on the help page.

Great work!

Lol, thank you. But that was a very quick shot at it. I will make a better quality one with a better camera angle tomorrow. And an animated GIF

[Steve]

Basically, it's just this simple:

If you don't want collision damage don't fly close to enemy aircraft. If you chose to get in close you run the risk of taking damage.

This is the typical and canned irrelevence I've come to expect from many. You really don't have anything to say except to be critical of others opinions.. why post at all?

[Steve]

Latency bubble or not why should I be punished for not avoiding a collision that was not going to happen on my computer?

Fair enough.  Why should I be punished for collisions that others created but don't suffer damage from?

[Shamus]

Can you imagine all the nimrods that would be flying around trying to collide with you if they knew you would suffer damage it they saw a collision on their F/E?

shamus

[Steve]

Can you imagine all the nimrods that would be flying around trying to collide with you if they knew you would suffer damage it they saw a collision on their F/E?

shamus

Interestingly enough, I don't think there'd be that many and no-one can show that there would be.

[Motherland]

Fair enough.  Why should I be punished for collisions that others created but don't suffer damage from?

If you don't touch their plane, you won't take damage. It's really that simple.
If they didn't take damage they obviously didn't touch your plane on their FE.

[Donzo]

Interestingly enough, I don't think there'd be that many and no-one can show that there would be.

Nor can you show there wouldn't be.

[E25280]

Fair enough.  Why should I be punished for collisions that others created but don't suffer damage from?

But they didn't "cause" the collision -- they missed you.

You want them punished because you failed to get out of the way.  I don't think that is fair at all.

[Steve]

Nor can you show there wouldn't be.

I haven't made the claim there wouldn't be. Whereas some have claimed there would be, with no evidence whatsoever.

[Donzo]

I haven't made the claim there wouldn't be. Whereas some have claimed there would be, with no evidence whatsoever.

Who?

[Lusche]

Players HO, players vulch, players pick, players do suicide runs on ords & CV's. The overwhelming majority of them does all of it. They use any method available to "hurt" the enemy, regardless of cost.
Now give them the opportunity to cause additional damage with a guaranteed successfully ram that the enemy can't even dodge - There is no reason to assume they would abstain from using this "tool". Especially those who we use to call n00bs, who are unable to kill the enemy by means of ACM and proper shooting.


Introducing a ram you can hardly dodge because you don't see it is a rather bizarre way to improve gameplay. It creates a lot of problems and solves none.

Dear jury, I rest my case.

May this thread happily chug along, but the Snailman is now gone!   
 

[mike254]

Ok, I just read this whole thing for the first time, and I must say, Steve's stubbornness is driving me crazy. I just can't figure out what is so hard to understand here. I really can't. I don't see why people keep trying to explain it to him, your obviously are not going to get through to him if you haven't by now. Hes not changing his opinion. No offense to you Steve, but I think you are completely wrong on this.

[Steve]

Ok, I just read this whole thing for the first time, and I must say, Steve's stubbornness is driving me crazy. I just can't figure out what is so hard to understand here. I really can't. I don't see why people keep trying to explain it to him, your obviously are not going to get through to him if you haven't by now. Hes not changing his opinion. No offense to you Steve, but I think you are completely wrong on this.

No offense taken,  Mike.   What is it you think I don't understand?

[Steve]

Who?

cap1 and at least one other

if the modeling were to be changed, all you'd get would be rmtards.