Intolerance in education...

[AKIron]

Which proves that you have no idea at all what science is.

He has at least as much an idea of what science is as does any "scientist" who claims there is no god.

[Elfie]

Actually, there was an ultra dense mass which contained the entire universe- that exploded.
Kind of iffy, but by far no less than a Jewish zombie returning from the grave after having forgiving us all our sins, and telling us to eat his flesh and drink his blood.
That actually sounds like it was somehow taken the wrong way, eating human flesh and drinking blood sounds like something Zombie Jesus should be doing, not the other way around...

Both sound far fetched, and I honestly think that modern day theoretical physics should be taught over the writings of delusional Hebrews that are what... 3,000-4000 years old?

I've never understood the need to ridicule religion and those who believe with comments like.....the writings of delusional Hebrews.......loony creationists.....or calling my Savior a *zombie*.

You won't ever see me forcing my beliefs on any of you nor will you see me poking fun at your beliefs. This post I quoted in particular shows the same prejudice against Christianity that UC is showing by disallowing textbooks for merely having Bible verses at the beginning of chapters.

[lazs2]

"Science is merely the quest to understand and, if at all possible, replicate what we see, hear and otherwise experience in this world and beyond. It works in hard data. Conjecture, theory if you will, where it is used is backed by hard data as much as possible"

SD.. you realize that was a rationalization and...  gibberish.

Science is a crippled art form.

lazs

[Motherland]

I've never understood the need to ridicule religion and those who believe with comments like.....the writings of delusional Hebrews.......loony creationists.....or calling my Savior a *zombie*.

I've never understood why people get so insulted by a simple joke.

[Vulcan]

I've never understood the need to ridicule religion and those who believe with comments like.....the writings of delusional Hebrews.......loony creationists.....or calling my Savior a *zombie*.

You won't ever see me forcing my beliefs on any of you nor will you see me poking fun at your beliefs. This post I quoted in particular shows the same prejudice against Christianity that UC is showing by disallowing textbooks for merely having Bible verses at the beginning of chapters.

To be honest (no reflection on you btw) I find the most disrespectful of religions tends to be christians - especially when it comes to religions such as buddhism and hinduism.

The whole zombie thing I think is an attempt to put perspective on how some people view christianity. Some people see it no different to stories of greek and roman gods, santa, the easter bunny etc. Now I know some christians get very very upset at this comparison, but I must say I've come across some christians who do not see the bible word for word and agree, but are still able to follow their faith without going nuts over all the 'fantasy' parts. It's not just atheists by the way, if you talk to someone not exposed to christianity such as someone SE Asia,  and talk about the beliefs around christs activities they think it is ridiculous as well.

[AKIron]

I've never understood why people get so insulted by a simple joke.

You wanna see people get really indignant try telling joke with the "N" word. It's not hard for me to understand, pretty easy actually.

[lasersailor184]

To be honest (no reflection on you btw) I find the most disrespectful of religions tends to be christians - especially when it comes to religions such as buddhism and hinduism.

The whole zombie thing I think is an attempt to put perspective on how some people view christianity. Some people see it no different to stories of greek and roman gods, santa, the easter bunny etc. Now I know some christians get very very upset at this comparison, but I must say I've come across some christians who do not see the bible word for word and agree, but are still able to follow their faith without going nuts over all the 'fantasy' parts. It's not just atheists by the way, if you talk to someone not exposed to christianity such as someone SE Asia,  and talk about the beliefs around christs activities they think it is ridiculous as well.

You have to realize Vulcan, that Atheism isn't a lack of faith.  Atheists have just as much faith that they are right than the most religious Christians, Hindi, Muslims...  Atheism itself is a religion.

[Elfie]

I've never understood why people get so insulted by a simple joke.

I can understand jokes....except you weren't telling a joke......jokes have punch lines and there is no punch line in your post, only bigotry. Like I said, you won't see me doing the same to your beliefs.

*edit* I'm not insulted by your post, I just don't and never have, understood the need to poke fun at someone else's beliefs.

[Elfie]

To be honest (no reflection on you btw) I find the most disrespectful of religions tends to be christians -

I agree, some are very disrespectful of others beliefs. Yet, we can find that same kind of disrespect in any group of people towards beliefs that are not their own.

[Motherland]

I can understand jokes....except you weren't telling a joke......jokes have punch lines and there is no punch line in your post, only bigotry. Like I said, you won't see me doing the same to your beliefs.

I was pointing out how silly it looks when you take it and just look at it in a general picture, as someone else described. Just as Mr. No Name did with his big bang thing in the post before. Of course, I pushed it further in a more manipulative way in an attempt to make it more fun to read, I guess some people don't like that though.

*edit* I'm not insulted by your post, I just don't and never have, understood the need to poke fun at someone else's beliefs.

I think it's essential to find humor in our selves and in others, in good fun. I've never seen any harm in it.

[Leslie]

Sure, if the humor is backed up with some semblance of guts it is a good thing.  I have a friend who was arrested for flipping the bird to someone driving on the highway.  He knew this person and was having an ongoing squabble with him.  That person called the cops and my friend was arrested (flipping the bird is an arrest able offense here.)

Now I gotta say, my friend has a great sense of humor.  He was the only white guy in jail with about 20 black men.  One of them asked him what he was in for.  He replied he shot the bird at someone.  The black guy thought my friend actually shot a bird and asked him if he shot someone's parrot.  When my friend said no, you don't understand, this is what I did...you know, flipped someone off.  He demonstrated the gesture and everyone laughed so hard they got along ok during his short stay there.  He told them jokes, some of which were racial, but the way he told them had everyone laughing so hard the jailer came in and told them to be quiet...this is jail, you're not supposed to laugh in here.  To summarize, the blacks told their versions of the same kind of jokes and no one took offense.  It was a mutually agreeable situation that no one was going to get upset.

That is the definition of good humor.  Ridicule does not have anything to do with humor.  Probably the best way to measure humor is to see if what you say to another person face to face makes them laugh.  Of course the internet doesn't offer the luxury of face to face discourse.  Best rule of thumb is to not post anything you wouldn't say to a 350 lb. linebacker or a Mafia don and you should be alright.



Les

[Vulcan]

You have to realize Vulcan, that Atheism isn't a lack of faith.  Atheists have just as much faith that they are right than the most religious Christians, Hindi, Muslims...  Atheism itself is a religion.

Faith in what? Atheism is not a religion, I don't believe in santa, the tooth fairy,  or the easter bunny either. Just because I don't believe in yet another supernatural being does not make it a religion. it's just another wierd aspect of fundamentalist christians.

[SirLoin]

It is immoral to lie to children..If YOU want your child to be taught nonsense in class,that is your right.

As long as joe taxpayer doesn't have to foot this bill...

and can you keep this stupid nonsense..how shall i put it ?(as meekly & mildly as i can)...

To yourselves ?

[AKIron]

You have to realize Vulcan, that Atheism isn't a lack of faith.  Atheists have just as much faith that they are right than the most religious Christians, Hindi, Muslims...  Atheism itself is a religion.

Nothing gets an Atheist riled up faster than accusing them of be religious. Of course Atheism has been ruled a religion by a US court.

[Vulcan]

Nothing gets an Atheist riled up faster than accusing them of be religious. Of course Atheism has been ruled a religion by a US court.

Yeah well US courts are so level headed and all

It doesn't get me riled up, it just underscores the underlying issues some christians have with reality. ie... the lack of believing in a water walking jewish zombie being a religion. Plus I've received no instruction in atheism (whilst I received a reasonable amount of instruction in christianity), I do not follow an atheist doctrine (is there even one?), and I don't attend organized atheist meetings. So to me atheism being called a religion is just another example of not a christian not being able to see the forest for the trees, and they like to bring out the religion card as part of a typical christian play on words to further their own needs (especially when you see christians pull out the commie card on atheists - which is funny because I'm fairly capitalistic   ).

BTW there is an atheist religion, do you know what it is? (perhaps it's more agnostic)