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Offline garrido

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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2001, 05:58:00 AM »
Hello all:

You see, I step into the H2H Arena very often, and there is alway plenty of players. Isn't this enough for the ones who want to know aproximately what is this game in the MA?

I think that this option, perhaps incresing numbers to 12 or 16 players in H2H, would give them a quite fair idea of On-line gaming.

Nobody would take offense of being a mere spectator or being labeled as "training newbie" for 2 weeks.

And hackers using, we suppose, the 2 week free period in the MA to harm the rest of players, would be over. If the hacker is a paying customer, It can only be called 2 things: IMBECILE and BAD SPORT.

I've spoken XD

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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2001, 06:03:00 AM »
Ooops, double, triple posting galore  

Offline garrido

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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2001, 06:09:00 AM »
ejemmm. perdon XD
voy muy descoordinado desde unos pocos aņos aqui.

saludos por triplicado

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2001, 06:22:00 AM »
Djust restrict the access to ch100 during the first 2 weeks

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« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2001, 07:17:00 AM »
You can't show off this game in an 8 player arena!  You have got to be kidding me.  Any game can duplicate that feat.  Why the main is so cool, and the thing that really shows off AH is the dynamic and varied nature of an arena with 150 Plus folks in it.

We need MORE ways to help get new people into the game and grow the community, not LESS.  Why do you want to exclude anyone?  What is the problem?  I don't understand why you would want to stop the 2 week trials.  Heck, my score would suffer if we did.    Seriously.... please explain why you think this needs to be done.  I don't understand the motivation behind it.

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« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2001, 08:03:00 AM »
Lephturn, I think it is clear enough. I'm not talking about negating help to the new players. They have TA, H/H and even offline to train as much as they want and to familiarize with the AH concepts.
I'm talking only about disabling some features for these players during the evaluation period, for example, not being able to cause real damage to any plane. This will be more than enough to give them a perfect and clear idea of what is this sim and they will have more than enough data to subscribe or not.
I hope most of the "new" players are "legal" ones that only want to evaluate seriously this product. But, in the other hand, there are players attracted by the 0$ 2 weeks that come here only to harm the comunity and the software itself. Most of these are not new ones, they renew over&over their accounts with different nicks and give us nothing but worries.

As you surely know, most of the games, online and offline have demos available. You can play an scenary, for example, over'n over, and no more. And this is enough to demostrate the game. But none, or almost none gives as demo program the entire version with a time limit. If they do, a lot of people will find a way to crack this and enjoy the full version for free all the time. This is just an economical issue and I'm not worried about it. The problem is that this kind of people, usually, want to go further. You have a lot of examples in games line Quake, UT, etc.

AFAIK, this people have a common point, they dont want to pay a single $ to play anything. And if HTC can force them to pay if they want the full featured game, we'll get rid off them for sure.

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2001, 08:08:00 AM »
what is a "predetor" as it applies to this game??  I like having new guys around.  I like em a lot more than some of the flabby vets i see in the arena.  I don't see a problem here.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2001, 08:16:00 AM »
Mandoble,

The underlying accusation that I _think_ I see in your posts is that the 2-week period allows hackers to

"come here only to harm the comunity and the software itself. Most of these are not new ones, they renew over&over their accounts with different nicks and give us nothing but worrie"

If you are talking about hackers, just come out and say it, please.

Don't dance around your point.  
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« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2001, 08:18:00 AM »
What's wrong wih people having a free 2 week trial? Some years ago, when I was just started getting into flight sims, the only reason I tried online sims is that my AOL account provided me with free AW. Wasn't it for it, who knows if I would have ever made it to here.
Somehow I think this thread is related to an already beat up topic of people having pay less for AH...

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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2001, 08:21:00 AM »
Lazs, the following is a list of basic predators (there are much more sofisticated ones):

1 - People that, while liking the game, will never pay for it. They'll be changing nicknames and accounts over'n over.

2 - People that live to game the games. As the use to do with their, probably, preferred online games: quake, UT, etc.

3 - People that do not respect the community at all. In fact, they are not customers and have no compromise with the game neither the comunity.

4 - People that lives with the only purpose of hack and crack software.

5 - People that lives to harm everything.

you can combine various predator types into a single one with as many combinations as you want. But, the common charasteristic is that none of them want to pay for anything.


Toad, no, I'm not talking only about software gurus.

[This message has been edited by MANDOBLE (edited 04-05-2001).]

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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2001, 08:48:00 AM »
6 - People who might stick around if they ever got a chance to learn what we know.  But instead they become frustrated with getting blown to bits before they even figure out how to shoot back, so they quit. (79%)

7 - People who stick it out and become regulars, in spite of us. (19%)

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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2001, 09:10:00 AM »
MANDOBLE,

Businesses that focus too much attention on catching dishonest customers usually create a negative atmosphere for all customers, and typically do not do well (unless they are a bank or the like).
HTC needs to figure out how to get MORE customers to try out this game.
They also need to figure out how to get those customers to stay.  
The customers' first experiences in AH must be enjoyable, or they will leave.
IMO, newbies/freebies do not ruin this game.  
I love this sim, in spite of the fact that there are folks who just don't seem to see things the way that I see them, and the fact that the game isn't run exactly how I would have run it.
I, and many others, will not leave over a few relatively petty issues.
HTC can bank on this, and they know it.
The future of HTC is much more than the current clientele.

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« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2001, 10:07:00 AM »
"flabby vets "

ROFL!

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« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2001, 10:16:00 AM »
Well, this is my last post on this thread or anyother related to hacks or price.

First, this thread is not about price. It's neither about hacks. It is about attitudes. What Mandoble tries to explain (correct me if I am wrong) is that general attitude among freebies is more in the disruptive side than in the constructive one, and proposes some measures that are perceived to get with this better. Anything away from this is speculation. If you want to exercise your deductive skills, go ahead, but for your own benefit, not because your findings are correct within this thread.

Second, on the freebies issue, my feelings are that this side of the game can be tweaked a bit, on both sides, the one on the newbie, and the one on the rest of us. Like eskimo points wisely, it is a FRUSTRATING experience being shot down over and over and over and over ad nauseam. That's why I think some kind of testing set would be useful.

Third, on the hack issue, It is not relevant for me, as I have no means to counter. This ball is entirely on Htc.'s court. They are the exclusive players of this game. My monthly payment shows that they are doing OK, by my standards. When I feel the opposite I will (sadly) stop paying.

Cheers,

Pepe.

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« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2001, 10:25:00 AM »
Yep, PEPE, you are correct and caught the idea at first try.

I HOPE the general and alarming misunderstanding demostrated here is only due my terrible lack in english language.