Author Topic: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing  (Read 1470 times)

Offline Rich46yo

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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2008, 05:13:51 PM »
No, blast damage would be different.

What would be different? I aint accessing or concluding anything, and dont know squat about bombs. But is it normal for chunks of an airplane to fall off like that?
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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2008, 05:19:46 PM »
What would be different? I aint accessing or concluding anything, and dont know squat about bombs. But is it normal for chunks of an airplane to fall off like that?

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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2008, 05:51:35 PM »
Sure looks like a bomb exploded dont it?

Rapid decompression, even the luggage containers have been ripped apart going by the free baggage sticking out the hole. Also on the QA 744 their are oxygen tanks under the R2 door. As well as the galley above.


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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2008, 06:26:46 PM »


That wasn't caused by a bomb, but metal fatigue due to corrosion. The only casualty, a flight attendant, was blown out of the plane. Extensive corrosion was also found from this B747 during a maintenance.


Wikipedia has an alternative theory to the big hole of the Aloha's 737:

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Pressure vessel engineer Matt Austin has proposed an alternate theory to explain the disintegration of the fuselage of Flight 243.[4][5] This explanation postulates that initially the fuselage failed as intended and opened a 10" square vent. As the cabin air escaped at over 700mph, flight attendant C.B. Lansing became wedged in the vent instead of being immediately thrown clear of the aircraft. The blockage would have immediately created a pressure spike in the escaping air, a fluid hammer, which tore the jet apart. The NTSB recognizes this theory, but the board does not share the conclusion and maintain their original finding that the fuselage failed at multiple points at once. Former NTSB investigator Brian Richardson, who led the NTSB study of Flight 243, believes the fluid hammer explanation deserves further study.

Perhaps the 737 would've only suffered a hole similar to the 747 if the flight attentand wouldn't have plugged the hole during a rapid decompression.

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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2008, 03:55:06 AM »
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That wasn't caused by a bomb, but metal fatigue due to corrosion. The only casualty, a flight attendant, was blown out of the plane. Extensive corrosion was also found from this B747 during a maintenance.


Wikipedia has an alternative theory to the big hole of the Aloha's 737:

Perhaps the 737 would've only suffered a hole similar to the 747 if the flight attentand wouldn't have plugged the hole during a rapid decompression.


Wikipedia's idea is plain stupid. I know several people who were on that flight, ive heard first-hand accounts from every side of this. One of the passengers could actually SEE a gash in the side of the plane before take-off, but decided not to tell anyone. The plane was going to RIP apart, not just crack.

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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2008, 05:28:59 AM »
The passenger didn't see a gash, that is an exaggeration. What the passenger boarding at the front door saw was a small crack. This was just a visible artefact of a much larger group of minute cracks that combined to cause catastrophic failure of the skin of the aircraft.
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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2008, 03:11:19 PM »
The passenger didn't see a gash, that is an exaggeration. What the passenger boarding at the front door saw was a small crack. This was just a visible artefact of a much larger group of minute cracks that combined to cause catastrophic failure of the skin of the aircraft.

According to her quote, (I don't recall her name, but if any of you are REALLY obsessed with this story I can go down to the library and dig up the old news articles on it) she saw a "gash". Perhaps she meant simply a deep crack? I dont know, Im just saying what she said.

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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2008, 12:33:07 PM »
The bit that cracks me up is that there is this whole big fuss about 'oxygen masks not working'....

If an oxygen tank explodes and rips a hole in the plane.... WHAT THE F-CK DO YOU EXPECT!?. Jeeessuuuuss. People are absolutely retarded.

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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2008, 01:27:03 PM »
Xasthur you would not be laughing if you were on the plane taking the 20,000 FT plunge.
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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2008, 01:32:10 AM »
I'm quite sure I wouldn't be but that's hardly the point is it?

My point was with the media's complaints. It's like a flight encountering engine trouble and having to shut down an engine.... then the passengers complain that the aircraft wasn't operating at full thrust.

 :furious Morons in the media.....

Of course the bloody oxygen supply didn't work properly.... The oxygen system blew up! Faarrkkkkkin' hell.
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Re: Two Meter Gash Qantas 744 Emergency Landing
« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2008, 09:11:26 AM »
I'm quite sure I wouldn't be but that's hardly the point is it?

My point was with the media's complaints. It's like a flight encountering engine trouble and having to shut down an engine.... then the passengers complain that the aircraft wasn't operating at full thrust.

 :furious Morons in the media.....

Of course the bloody oxygen supply didn't work properly.... The oxygen system blew up! Faarrkkkkkin' hell.

From what I understand, the "system" didn't blow up but rather an oxygen bottle exploded.  There is a primary and back up in this situation.  That said, there is an interesting thread on Airliners.net about the situation:

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/4082804/