More depth to C47's troops?

[Nuku]

Right now C47s carry troops.  That's all they do.  And they only do it to capture a suppressed field.  Any other time, they're clay pigeons.  Even M3's can fight back.

While sitting in a "goon", I thought that it'd be nice to be able to use one offensively: drop off a mortar team to plink the airfield (in particular, drop shells into those !@#$! open-topped ostwinds); or drop off an anti-tank team to bolster airfield defenses from a tank swarm.

We can select between types of AG ordnance.  Would there be much interest to be able to select between "troop" type loadouts?  E.g. "commando" (for capture), "mortar team", "A-T team"?

[TheWobble]

Good idea.

To add, how about dropping off ammo or fuel to a field that has been uber stratobuff raped, or better yet drop a repair crew , the more guys you drop the faster the rebulid time.  also it would be neat to drop some biological agents....like some beef from england or something.

[snafu]

Hmmmm,
 I definately like the idea of more roles for the C47 after all it's current loadout is woefully inadequate. The civilian version could carry 10 passengers in relative comfort. It would be nice not to have to get all the troops into the map room and to be able to have at least a few casualties (Maybe 15 troops and still only 10 needed to take a base) or even better 15 troops for the C47. But only 10 needed for a V field, 12 for a small field. 14 for a medium field and all 15 for a large field.
On the subject of the alternative stores the RAF used to carry 6 pounders for deployment in C47's. The only thing I would say is no more AI gunnery. Have a "Mortar etc by all means but treat it like a detachable gunner and make it player controlled. You could even mix ordinance. (Mortar equals 5 troops)?? (Drop your buddy off to keep the field supressed while you get the troops in). Another role for the C47 could be to pick up downed pilots (Although in the MA I'm not sure people could be bothered to wait). But scenareo's yes please also they could drop munititions & repair items for Tanks (Bit Quakish but could be developed).

Oh yes and lose the troop icons. (Sorry to bring it up again)   An M3 can sneak across a field un noticed but as soon as the first troop sets foot on the ground the big "free lunch" billboard appears - madness. (If this is not possible reduce icon range down to about 100yds. They are trained for this and supposed to be difficult to spot.

Just a thought

TTFN
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[Fury]

I second snafu as far as number of troops to carry and also icons on troops.

It would be nice to have the 47 drop it's troops, hide, and come back in to drop a few more if someone killed a few from the first drop.

Fury

[popeye]

I'd vote for a reduced range for troop icons.

[LJK Raubvogel]

Yes to everything Snafu said. I posted in another thread about how it would be nice to have troops armed with some panzerschrecks or bazookas. Of course, you have to get rid of the neon billboard over their heads, or they would never get close enough to hit anything.

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[Fury]

snafu, I thought I was having deja vu when typing my first reply.
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum8/HTML/000731.html

Maybe if we keep at this long enough, HTC will get sick of our whining   and change it.

Fury

[Fishu]

If you wan't to have defensive guns in a goon, beg for Ju-52  
but you wouldnt be happy with its 3 peashots anyway.

[Replicant]

The only downside to a player controlled detachable gunner from a goon is that some people may just spawn a goon in the BH, drop the gunner, then end flight... do the same again for someone else.  It would be a lot easier to kill troops at the maproom that way rather than trying to spawn an aircraft IMO.  Obviously the way around this would be to destroy all hangars.

Regards

Nexx

[snafu]

Hey Nexx,
 As you say Kill the bomber hangers. I'm also an advocate of Ack rebuild time continuing after the field has been captured. (Especially if the goon could drop a gun position for attack & after capture defense) The argument against is that back in Beta people used to spawn C47's just as the enemy dropped it's troops and some fields switched sides like demented metronomes. (That was before closing fields was possible) Now killing the bomber hangers makes this a non event.

As Fury said this has been mentioned in many threads with no obvious disagreements.

And yes Fishu an axis goon would be great. We need one much more than another 1944/5 fighter IMO. (Mind you if it came to the choice between a JU-52 & a Mossie, erm let me think)  

TTFN
snafu

[Midnight]

Even the C-47 in AW had a .50cal door gun for a little while. It was a great idea too. It was funny to see a fighter make a break turn when the .50 hit him in the face.

The only problem was the gun could only be pointed out the left door and was not able to swing all the way aft to defend the 6 o'clock. I think you could go from 2-4 o'clock with it.

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[GRUNHERZ]

How bout C47s drop off fuel or ammo to planes that made forced landings without damage, so they can rejoin the fight, or to pick up downed pilots. Both ofthese would add some imersion to the game.

[iculus]

I like the idea of detachable gunners

It would be cool to drop covert agents behind enemy lines as well

<S>IC

[CavemanJ]

 

Originally posted by Replicant:
The only downside to a player controlled detachable gunner from a goon is that some people may just spawn a goon in the BH, drop the gunner, then end flight... do the same again for someone else.  It would be a lot easier to kill troops at the maproom that way rather than trying to spawn an aircraft IMO.  Obviously the way around this would be to destroy all hangars.

Regards

Nexx

I'd imagine the offensive load outs would need to be disabled if the ammo bunkers were down.  Maybe even if the barracks were down, since they rely on troops.

[Hans]

Caveman is right.

Don't bother with the Bomber Hangar, hit the barracks.  No more troops.  Who cares if the C-47 can spawn then.

Hans.