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Offline Yossarian

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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2008, 09:11:31 PM »
a) Get off the whole honour thing.  It's outdated in this game, and it's time for you to realise (even if you don't accept) that most other players don't see things your way.  I am NOT saying that it's outdated in real life (as it most certainly is not), but this game is not real life, and people should not treat it as such.

b) There is no b.

In my opinion, the game is just fine the way it is.  If you don't like the 'dishonourable, barbaric, un-community-spirit oriented approach' of the rest of the players, then as far as I'm concerned, you can shove it.  I believe I speak for many people here when I say that my real-life friends and communities take huge precedence over this, and as a result I don't overly worry about this community, and what people think of me here.  This does not mean that I'm going to 'let loose' when I play Aces High and act like a stupid, ignorant, arrogant and rude jerk-off, by contrast I always try to treat people here as I would if I actually knew them.

Sorry for being so rude, but I've seen so many of these nostalgia posts that it drives me nuts.  I know I should ignore them since I don't like them, but hey.

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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2008, 02:15:14 AM »
a) Get off the whole honour thing.  It's outdated in this game, and it's time for you to realise (even if you don't accept) that most other players don't see things your way.  I am NOT saying that it's outdated in real life (as it most certainly is not), but this game is not real life, and people should not treat it as such.

b) There is no b.

In my opinion, the game is just fine the way it is.  If you don't like the 'dishonourable, barbaric, un-community-spirit oriented approach' of the rest of the players, then as far as I'm concerned, you can shove it.  I believe I speak for many people here when I say that my real-life friends and communities take huge precedence over this, and as a result I don't overly worry about this community, and what people think of me here.  This does not mean that I'm going to 'let loose' when I play Aces High and act like a stupid, ignorant, arrogant and rude jerk-off, by contrast I always try to treat people here as I would if I actually knew them.

Sorry for being so rude, but I've seen so many of these nostalgia posts that it drives me nuts.  I know I should ignore them since I don't like them, but hey.


This is how you treat your real life friends...? :confused:

I see no problem with this post.  People posted about stat padders before and no one gave them any grief for posting it.

I agree though, if I knew I was invincible, I'd end sortie.

Oh, and about the whole "warping when you get near someone" bit, that's not always on purpose, please don't accuse people of cheating instantly.  It seems that the closer you get to an airplane, the more apparent the warping becomes.  I was having huge computer issues for the past 2 months (finally got it sorted! :aok) and being called a cheater when you had no idea you were warping is an awful feeling.  I actually got reported once because of it.  Good thing I was already in contact with Skuzzy about my problem or I could've had an issue...
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2008, 03:08:47 AM »
I wasn't around then and haven't heard anything about it, what are "kill macros"?

In AW, we had the ability to create macros.  You can use macros for in game commands like arm your bombs or to make "kill" macros that you can broadcast over open channel with some sort of message.  An example, "Someone just got a lead enema.  Kill 479th Raiders"

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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2008, 09:51:09 AM »
I wasn't around then and haven't heard anything about it, what are "kill macros"?

What ack-ack said.

In AW, if you landed, there was no system message telling the world how many kills you had.

What most people did was 'pre-record' funny messages to broadcast on "200."  When you killed someone, you would press the designated key and get a laugh.  Since they were user created, you cold always count on some good, new stuff just about every night.

As a result of the system, to achieve inter-country E-fame you were required to fight, not land.  Far fewer runners, much more dog fighting.

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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2008, 01:15:42 PM »
Ummm, in AW there was a system buffer message each time you got a kill, "Zazen shot down Bob, Kill #7". So, it was actually much worse in a way...People who lusted for your pelt would quickly realize where you were and do anything they could to end your sortie kill streak. So, if you wanted to preserve your streak you had to be extremely crafty and move around a lot to evade the "head hunters". AW also rewarded overall kill streaks with a progressive point multiplier, AH does not. So, AH's scoring system is actually much less conducive to timid scoreplaying.

In AH it is actually better to kill and die if you kill quickly enough and in sufficient quantity, than to kill and live in the same quantity as this tends to take quite a bit longer in terms of alting, re-alting,  RTB'ing and Re-arming. In AW K/D was everything, in AH K/D is just one of the component sub-stats and the least competitive of them, reaching its point of dramatically diminishing returns at 5 to 1 or so. So, AH's scoring system actually rewards not being timid to a point...
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2008, 03:46:55 PM »
I used to have some sweet macros... hehehe
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2008, 04:29:13 PM »
Ummm, in AW there was a system buffer message each time you got a kill, "Zazen shot down Bob, Kill #7".


It's obvious that it's been a long time and my memory has faded a bit but I seem to recall that was only visible to you and not the general arena.  The system message the arena would see was "A kill has been recorded" and "XXX shot down".  If you went to the O'club and read the AA reports then you'd see "XXX shot down XXX, Kill #7".

In the beginning, AH's system messages were almost identical to WB's.


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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2008, 05:12:10 PM »

It's obvious that it's been a long time and my memory has faded a bit but I seem to recall that was only visible to you and not the general arena.  The system message the arena would see was "A kill has been recorded" and "XXX shot down".  If you went to the O'club and read the AA reports then you'd see "XXX shot down XXX, Kill #7".

In the beginning, AH's system messages were almost identical to WB's.


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Yea, I'll admit my memory isn't improving with age either. But, I know people could deduce where you were fighting by who you shot down from the information the game made publicly available in  real-time. I can't recall whether it was all right there in the buffer or if they had to check the combat logs and scoresheets. I also can't remember exactly who saw what in the buffer but, I know there was an acknowledgement by the system when and who you killed that was visible by the other team in real-time. Now that I think about it I think the, "XXXX was shot down", message was checked against the player's scoresheets, logs or a public declaration by the recently victimized. The end result was the whole scoring system revolved around getting on kill streaks and/or ruining the kill streaks of others.
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2008, 09:18:37 PM »
a) Get off the whole honour thing.  It's outdated in this game, and it's time for you to realise (even if you don't accept) that most other players don't see things your way.  I am NOT saying that it's outdated in real life (as it most certainly is not), but this game is not real life, and people should not treat it as such.

b) There is no b.

In my opinion, the game is just fine the way it is.  If you don't like the 'dishonourable, barbaric, un-community-spirit oriented approach' of the rest of the players, then as far as I'm concerned, you can shove it.  I believe I speak for many people here when I say that my real-life friends and communities take huge precedence over this, and as a result I don't overly worry about this community, and what people think of me here.  This does not mean that I'm going to 'let loose' when I play Aces High and act like a stupid, ignorant, arrogant and rude jerk-off, by contrast I always try to treat people here as I would if I actually knew them.

Sorry for being so rude, but I've seen so many of these nostalgia posts that it drives me nuts.  I know I should ignore them since I don't like them, but hey.



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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2008, 09:22:01 PM »


I agree though, if I knew I was invincible, I'd end sortie.



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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2008, 09:26:38 PM »
I used to have some sweet macros... hehehe

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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2008, 01:36:51 PM »
haven't we visited this many times before?
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2008, 04:14:03 PM »
Ummm, in AW there was a system buffer message each time you got a kill, "Zazen shot down Bob, Kill #7". So, it was actually much worse in a way...People who lusted for your pelt would quickly realize where you were and do anything they could to end your sortie kill streak. So, if you wanted to preserve your streak you had to be extremely crafty and move around a lot to evade the "head hunters". AW also rewarded overall kill streaks with a progressive point multiplier, AH does not. So, AH's scoring system is actually much less conducive to timid scoreplaying.

In AH it is actually better to kill and die if you kill quickly enough and in sufficient quantity, than to kill and live in the same quantity as this tends to take quite a bit longer in terms of alting, re-alting,  RTB'ing and Re-arming. In AW K/D was everything, in AH K/D is just one of the component sub-stats and the least competitive of them, reaching its point of dramatically diminishing returns at 5 to 1 or so. So, AH's scoring system actually rewards not being timid to a point...

This is very true.  I'm a shameless "land-my-kills" dweeb and I'm consistently outranked by people who die a lot more with lower K/D ratios.  I'll spend 20 minutes stalking high altitude buffs only to kill one before I take a radiator hit, and do it again the next sortie.  So, in a way, having the name in lights awards people with superficial fame even though they are not rewarded by the ranking system.

Btw, in warbirds you could also figure out who was in an enemy aircraft by the kill messages
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2008, 04:39:19 PM »
In AW, we had the ability to create macros.  You can use macros for in game commands like arm your bombs or to make "kill" macros that you can broadcast over open channel with some sort of message.  An example, "Someone just got a lead enema.  Kill 479th Raiders"

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i had a few unique ones in AW....

I TOUCHED HER THIGH, AND DEATH SMILED......KILL
DEAD INDIANS LIE SCATTERED BLEEDING......KILL( i was asked to remove that one as it was considered offensive :D)

then finally went to  LIGHTNING STRIKES.......KILL

i got to use them a bit more often than i would if we used them here......the hit bubble was a wonderful thing for those of us with crappy gunnery :D
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Re: Exploiting of know bugs to pad score.
« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2008, 06:31:51 PM »

i had a few unique ones in AW....

I TOUCHED HER THIGH, AND DEATH SMILED......KILL
DEAD INDIANS LIE SCATTERED BLEEDING......KILL( i was asked to remove that one as it was considered offensive :D)

then finally went to  LIGHTNING STRIKES.......KILL

i got to use them a bit more often than i would if we used them here......the hit bubble was a wonderful thing for those of us with crappy gunnery :D

Mine was "Someone got a lead enema.  Kill 479th Raiders" and "<Macro Space For Rent>. Kill 479th Raiders"


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