Does the IOC have any credability left?

[Masherbrum]

I haven't watched 1 minute of the olympics. None what so ever...and won't....It's all a joke. China even HAVING the olympics is a joke. All the B.S. cheating and the judges...no. Where are the outcrys and what nots form the oh so PC crowd,,,,why didn't the U.S. boycott he olympics from the moment the world KNEW china was getting them. For all the do gooders in the world....who seem to want to be all over the world prmoting KumBaYa politics....The silence is deafening.

Ditto.  I refuse to watch a second of it. 

[gwano]

I was just talking ot my mother about this
Based on how Rah rah NBC has been with its almost constant pro China rhetoric (propaganda)

It wouldnt surprise me to find out they bought NBC's support.

Has anyone else noticed how Pro China NBC has been?
I mean I can understand them being polite about China. But the way NBC is presenting the country more closely resembles people tripping over themselves trying to kiss someones arse

It wouln't suprise me if the chinese government told all of the media (not just NBC)that you will be broadcasting everything in a positive way or you will not be broadcasting anything. A closed society definately has that ability. Everything can and will be controlled if it reflects china in a poor light.

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It wouln't suprise me if the chinese government told all of the media (not just NBC)that you will be broadcasting everything in a positive way or you will not be broadcasting anything. A closed society definately has that ability. Everything can and will be controlled if it reflects china in a poor light.

I'm not to sure about that, it's not China that controls the Olympics, it's still the IOC, China is just the host country.

For those of you that have expressed displease with the IOC's choice of having it held in China this year, the IOC has stated that one of the main factors in there choice to have it held there is the fact that China has something like 1.3 billion people living there, and they said that they felt it was a good way to get alot of people(almost 1/6 the globes total pop.) interested in the Olympics.

[Vulcan]

It wouln't suprise me if the chinese government told all of the media (not just NBC)that you will be broadcasting everything in a positive way or you will not be broadcasting anything. A closed society definately has that ability. Everything can and will be controlled if it reflects china in a poor light.

Yup a BBC report got arrested yesterday trying to cover a free-tibet protest.

The olympics have reached an all time low imho.

[gwano]

I'm not to sure about that, it's not China that controls the Olympics, it's still the IOC, China is just the host country.

For those of you that have expressed displease with the IOC's choice of having it held in China this year, the IOC has stated that one of the main factors in there choice to have it held there is the fact that China has something like 1.3 billion people living there, and they said that they felt it was a good way to get alot of people(almost 1/6 the globes total pop.) interested in the Olympics.

I guarantee you that the IOC does not control China or its media control.
China controls the media that reports the olympics and all other news sources.

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I guarantee you that the IOC does not control China or its media control.
China controls the media that reports the olympics and all other news sources.

Yeah, the media that airs in China, all media in China is state run, but they don't control NBC, or what NBC airs while at the Olympics.

[Serenity]

Yeah, the media that airs in China, all media in China is state run, but they don't control NBC, or what NBC airs while at the Olympics.

Do you really think the Chinese cannot suddenly "lose power" to a transmittor? While China might not OPENLY admit to being in control, they control all of the power grids and everything else that these stations use to transmit. I know it sounds like a tinfoil-hat theory, but then again, it IS china we're talking about.

[Nilsen]

I think choosing China was a good thing. It has forced the regime to open up more than it was before and for a few weeks atleast the poor buggers that has to live in Beijing has abit better air to breathe. If the IOC shal be political is another story, but so far it has brought mostly good things to the people of China. Going to be interesting to see how things will be there a year after the games have finished though.

[DREDIOCK]

I haven't watched 1 minute of the olympics. None what so ever...and won't....It's all a joke. China even HAVING the olympics is a joke. All the B.S. cheating and the judges...no. Where are the outcrys and what nots form the oh so PC crowd,,,,why didn't the U.S. boycott he olympics from the moment the world KNEW china was getting them. For all the do gooders in the world....who seem to want to be all over the world prmoting KumBaYa politics....The silence is deafening.

The Olympics are supposed to be about the athletes. Not politics.
The games are supposed to transcend political differences.

As I've stated in another thread. Im against any boycott. For that reason.
Plus If you want to inject any kind of political reasoning into it. There is the ages old mindset of pitting my best against my enemies best.
Im old enough to remember even when I was a small child. the big goal at the olympics was to do better then the Soviets.
That was the primary goal.

Before my time it was Nazi Germany (There seemed to be a little known fight between Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling that attracted some attention)

Having the olympics in China has two side benifits. It forces that area to be a little more open to the world. Thus exposing its people to a free people.

And what better thing then to kick the arse of your enemy in his own house

[midnight Target]

LOL... you guys are funny.

These may be some of the least controversial games ever. I dare you to name an olympics without some kind of scandal or issue. Go ahead... start in 1896 I'll wait.

[Nilsen]

LOL... you guys are funny.

These may be some of the least controversial games ever. I dare you to name an olympics without some kind of scandal or issue. Go ahead... start in 1896 I'll wait.

Fill men in on how the games at Lillehammer in 1994 was more more controversial and what scandals there were.

[midnight Target]

Fill men in on how the games at Lillehammer in 1994 was more more controversial and what scandals there were.

Are you kidding... Lillehammer had one of the best scandals ever.

Tonya Harding - Nancy Kerrigan - Whack on the knee - shoelace malfunction.. scandalous!


I never said Lillehammer was more controversial, just that every games had something.

[iTunes]

The thing that is sticking with me is the standard of Judging- Gymnastics- look at some of the scores there, I'm convinced some judges are doing something they shouldn't be...

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Do you really think the Chinese cannot suddenly "lose power" to a transmittor? While China might not OPENLY admit to being in control, they control all of the power grids and everything else that these stations use to transmit. I know it sounds like a tinfoil-hat theory, but then again, it IS china we're talking about.

Well sure they could cut power to an area if they wanted, but as you stated, it is a little tin foil hat for me, plus once the power came back they'd still report what they were going too, they can't keep the power off forever.  There are who knows how many different news outlets from around the world reporting from the Olympics and I think the Chinese would be hard pressed to censor anything that those news agencies want to report, if they want to say or show something their going to.  Now the Chinese media will only report and show what the government wants to show.

[BoilerDown]

I think choosing China was a good thing. It has forced the regime to open up more than it was before and for a few weeks atleast the poor buggers that has to live in Beijing has abit better air to breathe. If the IOC shal be political is another story, but so far it has brought mostly good things to the people of China. Going to be interesting to see how things will be there a year after the games have finished though.

This. 

You think all the Beijing citizens are going to like their city quite as much now that they've seen it without all the smog?  There's going to be some change in China, thanks to the Olympics.