Author Topic: I fought popy last night...  (Read 222 times)

Offline [Sg]ShotGun

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I fought popy last night...
« on: December 24, 2000, 08:10:00 PM »
1v1 at lo alt S of 25 and sometimes over the water. a point, counter-point, advantage, disadvantage long duration combat. Him in is 4u and me in my G10-R6.

it came down to a final HO with me thinking, 'oh well...soo much for this sortie',

'but what to my wondering eyes shood appear, but the 4u missing a wingtip and Egressing otta here'

so i think to myself..wow it is true. so follow him i do and i can see by his minnie warps he is battling hard to maintain control while at the sametime avioding me. i finally administer the 'coup de grace', when i get the...'dont move ur controls so rapidly' roadkill. and plow into the ground seconds after he does.

2 things. can the wingtip missing bug be fixed along with this control freeze everytine i make a sudden control input to track a target.  i have usb stick.

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Offline ZOSO

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I fought popy last night...
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2000, 08:38:00 PM »
Hey SG, email me your snail mail address again please.  I lost it in a reformat.  You sent me that TM ACM card.

Is your damping all the way down?  I pushed mine up just a little and that "controls too rapidly" problem disappeared.

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I fought popy last night...
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2000, 11:17:00 PM »
Missing part of a wing isn't as bad as it sounds.  When you loose part of a wing, you still have 3/4ths of your total wing area.

It does take alot of counterforce control to keep it flying though.

Wingtips are usually not designed to lift as much as the thicker root...that is why the root is thick.  The wingtips generate less lift so the wing doesn't have to be beefy down its whole length, which is too much weight in structure for the benefit.

Still, graphically it looks like some planes loose too much of their wing.  B-26s get my vote for a change to the break point right outboard of the engines before Corsairs.  I once lost both wingtips in a B-26, but I couldn't stay airborn anymore.  It did do wonders for stabalizing the pig though.  I ditched it easy.

To illistrate my point, I have seen a picture of an Israeli F-15 that lost its ENTIRE right wing, and made it back to base.  Granted, I think the fact he has more thrust than weight might have aided him somewhat, but still.

Hans.

Offline Yeager

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I fought popy last night...
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2000, 02:40:00 AM »
Sg,

I have USB MS PrecPro and have not seen that "dont move stick" message since beta.

Yes, the visual cues for damage are not in perfect harmony with the flight model behavior post damage.

Im thinking that Pyro and Hitech are aware o this but we should continue to remind them with good frequency.

Yeager
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Offline [Sg]ShotGun

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I fought popy last night...
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2000, 04:54:00 AM »
the dampners and the dead band are just off the zero mark.

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Offline SKurj

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I fought popy last night...
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2000, 11:27:00 AM »
With them that low Sg you will see the stick stirring message frequently I'd imagine.

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Offline [Sg]ShotGun

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« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2000, 01:57:00 PM »
so is this message and the subsequent control freeze up, a punishment in response to the complaints about 'stick stirrers'???

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