LSO Position for Carriers

[Jekyll]

I've had mixed success so far landing on CV's.. it seems that the margin between success and failure is pretty thin.

Now for the new guys, CV landing is sure to be a nightmare... SO

How about an LSO position on the CV, mannable as you would a gunnery position.  Place it right in the middle of the deck, on the 3 wire.  A fixed rearward gunsight inclined upward at say, 5 degrees with a central dot.  As the aircraft approach, someone could jump into the LSO position and radio landing instructions.  If the aircraft is above the dot, he's too high.  If below the dot, too low.  If to the left of the dot, he has to come left etc.

As long as the pilot maintains the correct airspeed, flying the 'dot' would ensure a successful carrier landing.

OK, flame away.

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[CavemanJ]

not a bad idea actually.  I had a similiar one using the default view from the tower.
While commanding TG20 last night, and sitting in the tower waiting to get close enough to launch, I watched several people come in to land.  I was tempted to try and help'em get on the deck, but I found I couldna really judge whether they were too low/high until a couple seconds before they slammed into the fantail, making a rather nice fireball.

[Mattibaby80]

I thought it was agreed months ago that HTC was gonna digitize fatty and have him wave you on board with a beer in each hand?  
 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/defaultframe.html

Damn Rip, you really know how to make someone laugh!!!
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[This message has been edited by Mattibaby80 (edited 12-28-2000).]

[Rickenbacker]

They were going to do the Fatty thing, but it was scrapped due to the ridiculous polygon count.


 


 

[Dinger]

Dunno. From watching  CV landings in brand W, the big problem is lag.  If you use an LSO, you'll be making most pilots overshoot.

[funked]

Dinger is right.  Cool idea though.

[Jekyll]

Yup dinger... absolutely right I s'pose.

Oh well, back to the drawing board  

[Duckwing6]

Ahh c'mmon guys .. think about the speeds..

Ok some math:

Delay for me 200ms, some other guy in Europe (for example Blitz) also 200ms = 0.4s Delay

Carrier travels at 20(?) Knots = 11.25 yards/sec

F4U on final 110mph IAS = ~54 yards/sec.

Relative speed:
42.75 yards/sec

distance travled during the delay time:

17 yards

-> doesn't make all that much of a difference does it .. you can easily talk someone down onto the wires with RW .. but typing i dont think so (unless you have keyboard commands to give signals (waving the paddles)

DW6

[Midnight]

No thanks. I can do without a lagging LSO screwing me up, or worse, me screwing someone else up. Especially a guy coming back from a mission with 4-5 kills.

Maybe a good solution could be to give the landing pilot a meatball to use. YES, I know that is a modern thing, but with the lacking of an LSO, it is the best we could do, unless HT could model an LSO that would work.

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Midnight
13th TAS

[Specterx]

Maybe there could be some kind of automatic LSO, like when you want to land on teh carrier you radio for clearence and then you're "locked in" to the system.

Anyone remember on Aces of the Pacific, where when landing on carriers you had the little guy in the upper left giving you landing signals? There could be an indicator like that like that. Of course, if people don't want to use the system they just don't radio for clearence  .

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[SKurj]

Client side LSO system perhaps?

AKskurj

[Hans]

Thats what I was thinking.  An LSO would be client side, and nothing would be comming thru the modem about it.

You have a carrier postion, you have your position in the 3D space, what more info do you need?

Hans.