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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2008, 06:16:57 PM »
they like to privatize the profits and socialize the loses.

 :rofl :rofl

Boy aint that the truth in light of the Mortgage bailout! That is pure socialism.

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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #31 on: August 23, 2008, 06:17:04 PM »
Whats it matter how much our Government taxes us, they just spend it on Iraq.

You're right, that's all it is spent on....the entitlement programs are funded by donations from good-willed people.

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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #32 on: August 23, 2008, 06:59:30 PM »
Regarding the 1st part....Are you SURE?

Or does the line, from the pledge of allegiance,  "and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands" mean anything to you?

Regarding the 2nd part ....  agreed.

Enh? Wrag... I don't get the question. Brain Freeze here...
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2008, 07:59:52 PM »
He means that we are a representative republic, not a true direct democracy.


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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2008, 09:14:22 PM »
oh... crap, we're hardly a republic or a democracy.

...sad truth.

Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above. But, people wig out when you use the 'f'' word in politics, so I guess they'll have to call it something else in the history books.
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2008, 01:20:55 AM »
You may be a right winger if,

 you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites.  How about coming up with some original material for a change.

For the most part, it's true.
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2008, 07:17:22 AM »
Enh? Wrag... I don't get the question. Brain Freeze here...

Sorry........

I think when we are in any discussion that involves our form of government we should call it by what it is...........

It is NOT a Democracy, NEVER has been a Democracy, and it was NEVER intended to be a Democracy.

What we have here is ????????????

"The great mass of people . . . will more easily fall victim
to a big lie than to a small one."
Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
German dictator

The individuals that got together and came up with our form of government were classically educated.

They were FULLY aware of the Greek Democracies and REJECTED that form of government for our nation.  The MAJORITY does NOT rule here!  We have a Bill of Rights and efforts were made to PREVENT the majority from ruling over the minority. 

IIRC  Benjamin Franklin answered with a Republic IF we can keep it..

Seems to me we ought to be more careful about calling our form of government something it isn't.

Some might call my reaction nit pickin but............

I've been running into more and more young people that............

I'm beginning to think on that old saw about telling people a lie often enough and they will come to believe it is the truth...................
It's been said we have three brains, one cobbled on top of the next. The stem is first, the reptilian brain; then the mammalian cerebellum; finally the over developed cerebral cortex.  They don't work together in awfully good harmony - hence ax murders, mobs, and socialism.

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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2008, 07:21:00 AM »
oh... crap, we're hardly a republic or a democracy.

...sad truth.

Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above. But, people wig out when you use the 'f'' word in politics, so I guess they'll have to call it something else in the history books.

OK  :lol

Sadly i'm thinkin your evaluation is closer to the truth then many I've seen. :salute
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2008, 07:25:16 AM »
For the most part, it's true.

As I've answered others............


If you don't care for what I post you are most welcome to NOT read it........... :rock
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2008, 07:32:15 AM »
oh... crap, we're hardly a republic or a democracy.

...sad truth.

Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above. But, people wig out when you use the 'f'' word in politics, so I guess they'll have to call it something else in the history books.

...and here's the definitive answer.

You might be a liberal IF... you think a corporate fascist state isn't such a great idea.
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2008, 07:32:47 AM »
Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above.

Hang, over coffee, watch the You Tube installments of the movie "The Corporation."  Tell me what you think.  It isn't boring.

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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2008, 09:41:22 AM »
skyrock.. since I think the only function of government is to raise an army and to provide the court system then you can probly figure out how I feel about a federal reserve.

I have no idea who is rich and didn't earn it and who is rich and earned every cent and deserve it.. not my call.  that is what a court system should address.   

It seems that all of us want smaller government for everyone but ourselves.. we seem to want more and more government in our own lives so far as safety nets and giveaways.

None of us seem to think that we have enough and that it is the fault of anyone who has more than us.

democracy fails when people realize that they can vote themselves goodies at someone elses expense..  and.. aquire the will to do so.

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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2008, 11:44:53 AM »
skyrock.. since I think the only function of government is to raise an army and to provide the court system then you can probly figure out how I feel about a federal reserve.

I have no idea who is rich and didn't earn it and who is rich and earned every cent and deserve it.. not my call.  that is what a court system should address.   

It seems that all of us want smaller government for everyone but ourselves.. we seem to want more and more government in our own lives so far as safety nets and giveaways.

None of us seem to think that we have enough and that it is the fault of anyone who has more than us.

democracy fails when people realize that they can vote themselves goodies at someone elses expense..  and.. aquire the will to do so.

lazs

Yup. The freaky thing about democracy is 51% of the population gets to dictate terms to the other 49%.

Not exactly what the 49% had in mind when they elected to play the game. ;)
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Re: You might be a Liberal IF......
« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2008, 12:12:38 PM »
Yup. The freaky thing about democracy is 51% of the population gets to dictate terms to the other 49%.

Not exactly what the 49% had in mind when they elected to play the game. ;)

How so? 

This is not a direct democracy, meaning that the "popular vote" (51% of the population) does not dictate terms. 

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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2008, 01:00:29 PM »
How so? 

This is not a direct democracy, meaning that the "popular vote" (51% of the population) does not dictate terms. 

Agreed. But the population doesn't know that. The reality is about 35% of the population votes. Their mis-conceptions, cherished delusions, really; are what all the election hoopla is about.

Smoke and mirrors.

All Hail the 'new' Corporate Amerika... same as the old Corporate Amerika.
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