Submarines!!!!!

[Loggerhead]

OK,  This PT Boat just about hooked my $30/mo.  I'm bored to death with flight sims plus I'm an ex-submariner so the new naval addition has gotten my attention.  I'd love to see a couple of U-boats added to this game.  Say a Type VIIC and a Type XXI.  Rolling sub set of course.  :-)  Hmmm.  Then add a few convoys for the strat.  

Just a thought,

Lamar Lamb
Ex Submariner
USS Guardfish

[Karnak]

I saw HiTech say that it was unlikely (maybe he said something stronger, I don't remember) that there would ever be a submarine in AH.

I saw hime say this in the MA tonight.

Sorry.

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-Karnak

[[Sg]ShotGun]

karnak...im a little unsure of ur home location...cood u be more specific  

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78th FG

[Staga]

HT said that he doubt it.

Sub's speed in submerged is less than 1/4 of out fleets speed and when up less than half.
(of course there were faster subs too: perk them )

So what you need to get a kill in sub is:
Lots of time and huge load of luck  
 

[Loggerhead]

 

Originally posted by Staga:
HT said that he doubt it.

Sub's speed in submerged is less than 1/4 of out fleets speed and when up less than half.
(of course there were faster subs too: perk them  )

So what you need to get a kill in sub is:
Lots of time and huge load of luck  
 

Just as it was in real life.  But with your buds in the aircraft spotting the fleets you could move into position for an intercept.

Add several convoys and work them into the strat equation then you can have some extra targets to fill in for the time problem.

The real probs are time and no night.  Surface transit speeds for the  mentioned U-boats were about 18 knots.  The US Gato class and later had a surfaced speed of about 21 knots.  This would mean a lot of time just transiting and getting into a favorable attack position after making contact.  But I'm sure the bad guys AC would be glad to keep you entertained during your trip if they spotted you.  Most people won't spend half a day maneuvering into a position to attack.  I might, but I'm warped anyway.  :-)

At any rate, without night it would be extremely difficult to get into a favorable attack position. And with the fast night and day, even if you had night, you would run out of darkness before you could get into position to attack.  Oh well, now I'm rambling.  It was a nice thought while it lasted.  That wake would look so nice behind a Type VIIC or a Gato.  :-)

Later,




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Lamar Lamb
www.glassdolphin.com

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[Pongo]

Logger head. If you put in a convoy or two or three. How many would survive the aerial onslaught to be there 2 hours later when you showed up.  I think it would be very frustrating for the sub driver. Set up your solution on a big Maru and 2 Jugs lay waste to it while your torps are running their tracks. Its hard to think of scenarios where the sub would be used enough to justify the development of the capability and the enhancement of the mapping technology to include water depth and submerged target visiblity handling. I think you would need a whole different kind of map to have meaningful sub action. Something much larger that didnt have the counties so close. That opens a whole can of worms about the rest of the game play.

[GrinBird]

Dunno much about subs, but wasnt the U-boats only usefull against targets as Oiltankers bulk transport ships etc.? In the movie "Das Boot" the german Captain tries to keep out of range of any naval ship like Destroyers and such. Going head to head with a destroyer or cruiser the submarine would never have a tailors chance in hell.
Therefore submarines would only be usefull if AH had civilian transport ships as part of the gameplay, which wouldent be much fun anyway.

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GrinBird