Corporal punishment

[SkyRock]

I didn't go to college to learn to spank children, but the old saying "spare the rod spoil the child" actually works.  As an educator I've gradually accepted the fact that corporal punishment does indeed work.  As long as a parent agrees to allow their childeren to receive punishment in that form.   The problem in many districts is an ineffective disciplinary solution to problematic children.   If you suspend them, the district looses matching federal funds for that day and their attendance percentage goes down(not good for NCLB policy).  The only alternative is to dump mucho money into an alternative learning center, which is badly needed these days.  The best solution is to have parents do their job at home, but in these times, that may be wishful thinking.


Mark

[bmwgs]

The funny thing about this thread is a few are concerned their little angels are going to be paddled.  Well, being on the receiving end of the paddle many times in my school years, I never saw one of those little angels next to me.  The bottom line is, if your children are so well behaved, then there should be no concern about corporal punishment.

Now you can bring up the one in 100,000 case where there is a teacher that gets their jollies hitting kids, but in this day and age, I don't think they would be employed in the school system very long.  Matter of fact they probably would end up doing a little Time Out (just another name for prison).

Fred

[Kaw1000]

The funny thing about this thread is a few are concerned their little angels are going to be paddled.  Well, being on the receiving end of the paddle many times in my school years, I never saw one of those little angels next to me.  The bottom line is, if your children are so well behaved, then there should be no concern about corporal punishment.

Now you can bring up the one in 100,000 case where there is a teacher that gets their jollies hitting kids, but in this day and age, I don't think they would be employed in the school system very long.  Matter of fact they probably would end up doing a little Time Out (just another name for prison).

Fred

Agreed 100%!! All kids are not the same...some need the paddle some don't!!
So all you people that don't agree with the paddle, think about the ones that do
Need the paddle next time you disagree with it!!

Kinda like.....my kids are really good, we Don't need laws in this country anymore. we dont need rules in the schools
anymore...because my kids, are good kids.

[VonMessa]

Up until kids are school age, reasoning skills are not quite as developed as they will be later in life.  Therefore, logical thinking may not apply.

But...   a healthy swat with the wooden spoon brooks all intellectual boundaries.  Pain is universally understood.  If the kid does something wrong, and it smarts right where they have some extra padding, the chances are they will be less likely to do the same thing over and over again.

Pavlov's theory isn't just for dogs.

As they grow older, and they show you what their habits and weaknesses are (TV, phone, video games, etc), they will give you all the leverage that you need.   

My kids are 10 and 12.  They are out of control for their mother.  They are well behaved with me. 

Mom negotiates, makes "deals", compromises.

They know my plan.

1st time I ask
2nd time I tell.
3rd time... it will be less than pleasant.

[Trell]

I didn't go to college to learn to spank children, but the old saying "spare the rod spoil the child" actually works.  As an educator I've gradually accepted the fact that corporal punishment does indeed work.  As long as a parent agrees to allow their childeren to receive punishment in that form.   The problem in many districts is an ineffective disciplinary solution to problematic children.   If you suspend them, the district looses matching federal funds for that day and their attendance percentage goes down(not good for NCLB policy).  The only alternative is to dump mucho money into an alternative learning center, which is badly needed these days.  The best solution is to have parents do their job at home, but in these times, that may be wishful thinking.


Mark

When i was in high school kids that were suspended were given it in house.

They were kept in a room with out a clock and with out anything to do anything all day.   Kept the student in school, But also kept them bored out of their mind.

[dkff49]

When I got suspended (many years ago) I had to go to school for my suspension. We had a clockbut we had to copy the policies regarding punishment and behavior. Talk about a boring day and having that clock made it worse yet.

BTW on topic of corporal punsihmnet in school. I feel that this is and should be decided by the parents of the student. Though you may feel that it is a necessary tool, there are those that feel it is not only unnecessary but immoral as well and we all have the right to raise our children to our own beliefs (of course barring the usual can not cause harm to another).

A prime example of a society that does not believe in striking children was explained to my wife and I at Old Fort Niagara by a guide at the trading post inside the fort, who was raised on a native american reservation. He explained that when settlers started to come over they natives were shocked to see and hear of grown men striking small children. Like beating up on a defenseless person. In contrast though the settlers of the time noted how well behaved the children were. Wish I could remember the name of the book he referenced us to, which was written by one of the early explorersto the Americas.

[SirLoin]

Let me see if I understand. 

Since the thread is about corporal punishment in school, and you and a couple other agree that anyone that puts their children in public school should be whipped in the town square.

Obviously you must agree with corporal punishment since you are condoning public floggings.  By the way who will administer this whipping in the town square?

Forgive me, I was educated in the public school system, and since my mother is a retired public school teacher, I guess I just don't get it since I was raised and educated by morons.

It just amazes me sometimes how narrow minded some folks are.

Fred

You didn't read my first post...And you obviously never heard of Voss.I think everyone should know what name he posts under now..especially in a spanking thread.

[AKIron]

You didn't read my first post...And you obviously never heard of Voss.I think everyone should know what name he posts under now..especially in a spanking thread.

I have no idea what name Voss posts under, gimme a hint?

[SkyRock]

I have no idea what name Voss posts under, gimme a hint?

it's a beef cut..........











 

[SirLoin]

I am not Voss..and i think spanking should only be done between consenting adults.

[bmwgs]

SirLoin

When I posted and placed the quote, it did not insert what I actually was responding to.  The post was not really directed to you alone, I was just responding to the whipping in the town square comment.

My apologies.  And your right I have no idea who Voss is.

Fred

[1pLUs44]

LMAO!  Only 200,000 students paddled last year.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/20/corporal.punishment/index.html


Not bad out of 50 million students and the fact that 10,000,000 probably needed or deserved a whopping last year!

Sad...

Well, thank god for big bros, when your parents couldn't hit their kid and leave a mark, your bro sure can!

[Sandman]

Mom negotiates, makes "deals", compromises.

Herein is the root of her problem.

[VonMessa]

One day, when they are almost beyond the point of control, she will understand this.  That is the day that I will revisit the county courthouse and ask them to please re-define for me what the phrase "in the best interests of the children" and how it would specifically apply to my kids, and if the decision to let them stay with her has fulfilled the spirit of that phrase within the scope of it's guidelines.

Children(mine at least) are not negotiated with.  Their life choices are also limited.  e.g. I choose the clothes to buy and from what I purchase, they can choose which ones they want to wear to school on any given day.  This goes especially for my daughter.  I see how some some of these girls dress, today.