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Offline Widewing

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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2008, 09:09:39 PM »
Where is Widewing, when you need him? :)

The Pony in the first picture, IIRC, is not a P-51 but an A-36 Apache/Invader, the first examples of which were fitted with 4 Hispanoes: not totally sure, but they should have seen combat.

That Mustang is a P-51/Mustang Mk.Ia and it saw combat service. 150 were built, with 97 delivered to the RAF, and the balance being retained by the AAF. One of these was the basis for the XP-51B.

Here's one with a lot of combat sorties under its belt..


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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2008, 09:10:48 PM »
An A-36 apache IIRC has 4 .50s in the wings, and then, 2 .50s in the lower nose which looks very odd.
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2008, 12:06:06 AM »
On the picture of the B25 H ( I presume) the aerial shot, is that a ventral turret just aft the bomb doors? If so, were they common?

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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2008, 12:09:28 AM »
Where is Widewing, when you need him? :)

The Pony in the first picture, IIRC, is not a P-51 but an A-36 Apache/Invader, the first examples of which were fitted with 4 Hispanoes: not totally sure, but they should have seen combat.
EDIT: (oops Widewing beat me to it)

Not correct. Those are British Mustang 1a (P51 without any letter designation). I believe the British bought something like 160 of them which should be enough to allow perk versions in AHII if HT were so inclined. If he were I would most likely fly nothing else.

The A36 had two .30 caliber machine guns in the lower nose and four .50 caliber machine guns (two in each wing) and true dive brakes. If both were in the game I would have no need for any other airplane.
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2008, 12:53:02 AM »
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Couldn't find anything on the disruptive camouflage. What was the point of it?

     The dazzle paint stuff was used during wargames pre-war.  Only thing I've seen it used on during the war
were ships.  I have seen some weird stuff like fake noses painted on B-24s.  The most creative non use of
paint IMO was the bare nose scheme used by the 20th FG P-38s to simulate droop snoot gunless 38s.

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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2008, 01:05:38 AM »
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Couldn't find anything on the disruptive camouflage. What was the point of it?


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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2008, 01:58:37 AM »
That Mustang is a P-51/Mustang Mk.Ia and it saw combat service. 150 were built, with 97 delivered to the RAF, and the balance being retained by the AAF. One of these was the basis for the XP-51B.

Here's one with a lot of combat sorties under its belt..
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Also the Americans copied the British in mounting cameras in the P51s and redesignated them F6As which saw service in Africa with the 154th Observation Squadron.

WideWing any way you can find out if they ever drew blood? It would be interesting to know if these were the first true 'Mustangs' to claim a kill. I know they were under orders to avoid prolonged combat and see that their missions were accomplished by getting home but we all know how that goes when you see the enemy in front of your guns.  :D
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2008, 02:18:22 AM »
There are some reaaal smurfy planes there.

The B-15 kinda looks like the Mosquitos obese brother.
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2008, 03:25:19 AM »
The Pony in the first picture, IIRC, is not a P-51 but an A-36 Apache/Invader, the first examples of which were fitted with 4 Hispanoes: not totally sure, but they should have seen combat.

It's a P-51 with quad 20mm's... Deadly as it sounds I'd guess.
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2008, 05:49:44 AM »
I stand corrected. Thanks, gents! :)
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2008, 08:06:07 AM »
I want the Ki84 with the 4x20mms   mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm   :D
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2008, 08:25:05 AM »
"Couldn't find anything on the disruptive camouflage. What was the point of it?"

I think it could be used just to hide the the basic form of the object if you cannot blend it in the surrounding colour scheme, and that even with high contrast colours. Used already during WWI in ships, maybe it would work especially well near the shorelines with some added background disruption.







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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2008, 08:27:08 AM »
     I believe the dazzle paint was designed to make it harder for enemy warships and
submarines to correctly judge the range by making it harder to determine the actual
size of the vessel.
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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2008, 08:27:20 AM »
Double post, sry.

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Re: Rare Aircraft
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2008, 09:26:11 AM »
     I believe the dazzle paint was designed to make it harder for enemy warships and
submarines to correctly judge the range by making it harder to determine the actual
size of the vessel.
Pretty much what I thought too.
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