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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2008, 04:27:42 PM »
Isnt heart the band where the fat chick ate the rest of the band when they got stranded in the mounains?

Dunno, but here's an example of evidence proving she doesn't have the good sense to know when to quit  :huh

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bFpFBLRQ8Ns&feature=related
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #46 on: September 05, 2008, 05:08:23 PM »
Dunno, but here's an example of evidence proving she doesn't have the good sense to know when to quit  :huh

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bFpFBLRQ8Ns&feature=related


I really don't know what you're talking about.  Ann has as strong a voice as ever - maybe even stronger than ever.  Just because she put on a few (OK, quite a few) pounds doesn't mean she should hang it up.


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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2008, 07:36:00 PM »
lol one of the commits on that site said.. "Who cares they are both one hit wonders"  :rofl
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2008, 07:41:40 PM »
lol. that's pretty funny
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2008, 11:23:52 PM »
If I buy a CD or download (legally) and they get their cut, then I can play the song.  I paid them for thier intellectual rights.  I can turn up my stereo and blast the neighborhood and the only law I break is local sound ordinance or not getting a permit for using a Public Address system.  I can play it as background in a restaurant. I am not in violation of copywrite.

Now if somehow I make money from the public playing, say I am a wedding DJ, perhaps I am in violation.
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Holden, if you play any music that is copywritten thru BMI, ASCAP or SESAC in a public setting you owe royalties. About 15 years ago BMI went on a rampage and hit thousands of restaurants, bars, retail stores, grocery stores, ect. They gave the owners the option of paying yearly dues or being fined for back royalties. The courts backed the copywriters because under US law they are entitled royalties for any public performance of their product.

Just because you paid royalties when you bought the music does not mean you can play it anywhere you want. Those royalties only cover your personal, private use.

Here is a link to a good article on performance royalties thru BMI & ASCAP.

http://www.wooddonut.com/writing/essays/royalty-politics.html
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #50 on: September 06, 2008, 08:00:00 AM »
If elected I bet Palin will own "Barracuda" even if Heart doesn't want to sell it...

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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #51 on: September 06, 2008, 08:20:14 AM »
lol anne "the refrigerator" wilson outraged.  good.  and good on mccain and company for causing the outrage.

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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #52 on: September 06, 2008, 08:33:55 AM »
Did'nt the same thing happen with Bruce Springsteen and Reagan over "Born in the USA"?

During Reagan's campaign, George Will went to a Springsteen concert and concluded that based on his lyrics Springsteen might be a Reagan supporter (That is officially listed as the most clueless conclusion in the history of American journalism). Will suggested Reagan's campaign use the song, they contacted Springsteeen for permission and Springsteen declined.

There was never any legal action. The GOP just realized it wouldn't be a good idea to piss off the Boss and his millions of fans. With Heart, they're probably no too concerned about their fans (both of them).
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #53 on: September 06, 2008, 08:45:34 AM »
Sorry for the long delay in responding. Had to go to work.

Holden, if you play any music that is copywritten thru BMI, ASCAP or SESAC in a public setting you owe royalties. About 15 years ago BMI went on a rampage and hit thousands of restaurants, bars, retail stores, grocery stores, ect. They gave the owners the option of paying yearly dues or being fined for back royalties. The courts backed the copywriters because under US law they are entitled royalties for any public performance of their product.

Just because you paid royalties when you bought the music does not mean you can play it anywhere you want. Those royalties only cover your personal, private use.

Here is a link to a good article on performance royalties thru BMI & ASCAP.



http://www.wooddonut.com/writing/essays/royalty-politics.html

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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #54 on: September 06, 2008, 08:58:33 AM »
I really don't know what you're talking about.  Ann has as strong a voice as ever - maybe even stronger than ever.  Just because she put on a few (OK, quite a few) pounds doesn't mean she should hang it up.



Did you listen to the performance I posted the link to? Both her and the band are awful in it.
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #55 on: September 06, 2008, 09:14:59 AM »
Did you listen to the performance I posted the link to? Both her and the band are awful in it.

I tivo'd that performance when it was played on HDnet.  The entire concert was spot on and nearly flawless.  When you have real musicians playing real instruments (as opposed to lip lyncing to a sequencer), it is nearly impossible to sound exactly like the record.

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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #56 on: September 06, 2008, 09:18:22 AM »
Sorry for the long delay in responding. Had to go to work.

Holden, if you play any music that is copywritten thru BMI, ASCAP or SESAC in a public setting you owe royalties.

ASCAP claims that "the public interest demands that such an organization exist" and that it is "the only practical way to give effect to the right of public performance which the Copyright Law intends creators to have." Permission is granted in the form of a yearly blanket license, that entitles a buyer to use anything in the ASCAP or BMI catalog during a calendar year.

So all the Repubs or Demos need to do is buy a blanket license and they are covered for anything in the ASCAP or BMI catalog.  Seems they should buy a licence for election years.
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #57 on: September 06, 2008, 10:00:41 AM »
I was just wondering what would be the ramifications if a spokesman for the GOP held a news conference and announced,

"We apologise for our infringement on the intellectual property of the Wilson sisters, and we are prepared to pay royalties and any fine associated with our oversight.  It was an honest mistake: We had no idea Heart was still around:  We were under the mistaken impression that for Heart, the fat lady had sung long ago."   
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #58 on: September 06, 2008, 12:12:21 PM »
 :lol
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Re: Heart & their outrage over the use of "Barracuda" song
« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2008, 12:14:29 PM »
 :lol
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