.05 points??

[NHJordo]

I suceeded in sinking the enemy aircraft carrier with the battleship guns.  I saved the base and possibly the world from that evil death machine.   I'm expecting the Medal of Honor, but when I return to the hanger, I see that I was awarded a whopping ".05" perk points.   I know I should be satisfied with a job well done, but come on, .05 points???

[Torgo]

It's not a battleship, it's a Heavy Cruiser.

And yes, it's .05 perk points. I've killed a CV several times with the 8". Last one was at 24K.

I haven't done it that all that much, but now I can do it fairly quickly even at extreme ranges (CV is still barely a smudge even at max zoom.)

CV hardness REALLY needs to be raised. It's not all that much of an accomplishment to sink the CV now, and it usually happens quickly.

And it only takes 2 8" salvos as best I can tell. That's far less than it would have taken historically (of course, I don't think there's a single instance of a CV in WWII sunk by 8" fire.)

[NHJordo]

You're right, its not that hard, I've done it several times myself, but it still warrants more than .05 points.  I can drop a 1,000 lb bomb from a b26 into a patch of grunt training buildings and collect 5 points.  Drop 4 of them and get 20 points. That is a lot easier than sinking a carrier.

I also feel that you should get more than 1.25 points for capturing a field.

Maybe a bonus type system that rewards the significance of your mission.  For example, sink a CV and get .05 points plus a couple of points because it was a carrier, drop your troops and capture a field, get 1.25 points plus a couple of points for capturing the field.

[This message has been edited by NHJordo (edited 01-08-2001).]

[ET]

The bombing points seem a wee bit off.You use more bombs to kill a hanger but only get as many points as killing an ack.I get many more points by downing fuel,ammo etc.than I do using same amount of bombs to kill hangers.Maybe each bomb should have a hit value or the scoring for hangers and ships raised in point value.The other day I killed a CV,shot down 2 planes and thought I had scored big time.The hanger said I got 1.73 points.

[loser111]

i myself also feel that the points are kinda cacked for bombers...after my last lil' drunken rant on the bb ripsnort told me to smarten up and try hitting some structures instead of "trolling for fighters" so i did, instead of hitting main hangers etc i decided to try hittin fuel tanks, ammo dumps etc.. he was right

i think its kinda silly that you can load 250s and kill all the ack and other superficial targets and come back with balls of points, but if you kill the things that count, you get dick

[Pepino]

If you kill ack, you ease the thing for the goons. Much more than structures themselves.

So, I think only VH is more important than ack, as for base capture is concerned. In this sense, IMO the ack is pretty well valued. There is a lot of points for the whole system. I would raise the VH value, and leave the rest as it is.

A base can be effectively capped by a couple fighters given there is no ack and osty&M16 stuff around, and thus, it can be taken. No way if ack-ack or VH is alive.

Cheers,

Pepe.

[Pepino]

I disagree on the CV hardness. If the TG has an appropiate deployed CAP, and a man at the helm, only if it's left on 8" guns range is an easy kill. And that way it should be.

I think TGs have to be protected. A lone raider with 2x1000 attacking an unescorted carrier should be able to drop his load onto the deck, and effectively sinking the thing. TG should have CAP flying when in enemy waters.

IMHO, CV hardness is well modelled. And so CV Flak.

Cheers,

Pepe

[Jochen]

Royal Navy (them queers...) CV Illustrious (I think) was attacked by 30 to 40 Ju 88A-4's and Ju 87B-2 Stukas equipped with 500 kg AP bombs in mediterranean sea. Illustrious was hit by 4 bombs but some of them failed to explode. 2 more boms exploded near enough to cause underwater damage. Illustrious spend next year in United States dock for repairs.

Not a single Stuka was lost. Why? No air cover. obsolete Fairey Fulman fighters were chasing low torpedo planes and dive bombers could do their work properly, If there had been even few fighters as CAP attack would not have had this good results.

Undefended CV and other ships are dead meat against well organized air attack.

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