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Offline Yeager

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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #90 on: September 13, 2008, 10:51:01 PM »
Because we sold all our manufacturing base to China. Just like you guys are busy doing. :aok

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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #91 on: September 14, 2008, 12:21:13 AM »
you are truly a brilliant nothing!
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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #92 on: September 14, 2008, 07:07:07 AM »
Australians don't need any defensive aircraft. Who the hell would invade Australia?  Fer crissakes, England sent their inmates there hundreds of years ago and now those inbreds have bred like sheep. Genetically speaking, no one wants Australia.  :aok  Put up an airforce of bi-planes, any invading country would be laughing so hard that they'd call off an attack.  :rock

Australia is chock full of mineral wealth of all kinds. IT controls the most important ocean transport routes in the world. But mostly cause its resource rich. Zinc, copper, Gold, silver, tungsten, Nickle, Lead, cobalt, and new oil riches have recently been found offshore. Its no secret the Chinese have always looked south with longing. Australia is also a major food producer.

This is one of the most successful economies in the world.

Plus Australia has defense treaty requirements and has had defense issues in the past with other regional powers. She has the most advanced diesel hunter/killer submarines in the world. They are armed with the latest Yank Adcap torpedoes, anti-ship missiles, and combat management system.

An can someone please answer my question. Who exactly in the RAAF, or Aussie armed forces, respects DR. Kopp? Has he ever actually flown anything but small one engine personal airplanes? My understanding is hes a computer guy, or electrical engineer, on the payroll of a company that would score big should the F-111s be retained. My understanding is hes also persona non Grata in RAAF circles.

Hes nothing more then a "Defense enthusiast" with no meaningful credentials, no access to classified material, and nothing more then an Aces High fighter pilot, "and he even burned that bridge when he misstated RAAF statements".

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Rich, I don't "hate" America.
I've already covered the RCS angle. Against a technologically proficient foe the RCS isn't going to make that big a difference. I also think you've overestimated the F35 stealth capacity.
Whatever aircraft we chose it's going to cost us. If we make the wrong choice it's just going to cost us more, much much more.

Yeah, right :lol Stealth has been a total failure so far. I imagine it will be even more so in an airplane with at least 1/2 the return of a F-117 and more aerodynamic then an F-16. But the truth is none of us know the real RCS of the F-35, unless you have access to classified material.

But hey, don't think I don't feel for you. Putting your trust into such a 3rd rate warplane industrial base like Americas is must be painful. We spend countless Billions more on airplane development then the Russians, have a far superior technological base, and still they club us like baby seals.

Even worse we drag you Aussies under with us by forcing on you the same garbage we'll be protecting our 25 CVs and LHDs with, in fact our entire navy. Oh the shame of it all. :huh
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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #93 on: September 14, 2008, 09:47:18 AM »
planning on mass quantities of oriental meterosexual chefs with a penchant for your blooming onion recipe showing up anytime soon?
First mistake confusing the outback restaurant is from Australia it is not it is an American company with a so called Australian theme laughable to I might add. As an Australian living here I never heard of a blooming onion until I came here to the USA. So who are the metrosexual chefs then?

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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #94 on: September 14, 2008, 09:50:17 AM »
Australians don't need any defensive aircraft. Who the hell would invade Australia?  Fer crissakes, England sent their inmates there hundreds of years ago and now those inbreds have bred like sheep. Genetically speaking, no one wants Australia.  :aok  Put up an airforce of bi-planes, any invading country would be laughing so hard that they'd call off an attack.  :rock
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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #95 on: September 14, 2008, 10:01:40 AM »
:huh

Might want to review your military history there.

RAF was heavily outnumbered during the BOB.

The Americans were heavily outnumbered in the vast majority of aerial battles in the Pacific from the beginning of the war up through at least the Battle of the Phillippine Sea.

During Gulf War I the Iraqis had the third-largest army in the world.

The right tactics, training, experience and equipment can overcome numbers in virtually ANY combat engagement.

Not to mention the  Battle of Canne
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« Reply #96 on: September 14, 2008, 11:15:34 AM »
The Israelis showed that a few F-15s can defeat hordes of technologically lesser Migs.  Using that philosophy, I think Australia should have went with the F-22 for air superiority, and a dedicated ground attack aircraft.

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« Reply #97 on: September 14, 2008, 01:12:30 PM »
The Israelis showed that a few F-15s can defeat hordes of technologically lesser Migs.  Using that philosophy, I think Australia should have went with the F-22 for air superiority, and a dedicated ground attack aircraft.
The US is not selling the F-22 to any other countries at this point. I understand wanting to keeps it's secrets close to it's chest even when it comes to selling it to one of the US'S strongest supporting Allies.

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« Reply #98 on: September 14, 2008, 01:19:01 PM »
The Israelis showed that a few F-15s can defeat hordes of technologically lesser Migs.  Using that philosophy, I think Australia should have went with the F-22 for air superiority, and a dedicated ground attack aircraft.
yep, and they showed that the F22 can defeat 5 F15's. when everyone plays by the rules. what happens when the real enemy doesn't?
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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #99 on: September 14, 2008, 01:38:40 PM »
First mistake confusing the outback restaurant is from Australia it is not it is an American company with a so called Australian theme laughable to I might add. As an Australian living here I never heard of a blooming onion until I came here to the USA. So who are the metrosexual chefs then?

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« Reply #100 on: September 14, 2008, 01:42:47 PM »
...this one's along side the boat. should i use a gaff, a net, or just shoot the damn thing?

Release, you might get to reel him in again.  ;)
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« Reply #101 on: September 14, 2008, 02:19:55 PM »
yer right. I should tag and release.

...where are those explosive tags....




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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #102 on: September 14, 2008, 02:50:47 PM »
...this one's along side the boat. should i use a gaff, a net, or just shoot the damn thing?
Come on in the water is fine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfbPYn2LtSU

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« Reply #103 on: September 14, 2008, 02:56:06 PM »
lol.. gotta suck to be that guy..

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Re: JSF "clubbed like baby seals"
« Reply #104 on: September 14, 2008, 03:39:49 PM »
The JSF is a multi-role fighter.  I much prefer the idea of having an aircraft for each role.  More (combat) efficient that way.

unless you are trying to dogfight in a B-52.
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