Kind of a damning article on Palin

[lazs2]

an article printed by MSNBC and written by the new york times...  that can't be unfair or biased against her now can it?

lazs

[Elfie]

MSNBC is not the source of this article, it's the NYT.

Like the NYT is any better than MSNBC? Also, MSNBC has the article up on their website so they obviously don't mind smearing Sarah Palin either.

[Bronk]

an article printed by MSNBC and written by the new york times...  that can't be unfair or biased against her now can it?

lazs

Pure as the driven snow.

[442w30]

Pretty revealing how the media and the dems try to destroy any woman or person of color who has a chance to make it big but defends white guys like Bill Clinton, and glosses over moral creeps like John Edwards just because they have a common political view.  They also claim that Republicans are racist, judgmental, and want to keep women and people of color down.  Seems like every time I turn around it is the reverse, with the exception of the empty headed senator from Illinois of course.

[lazs2]

yep.. if we don't want billary then we hate and fear women but if we like Palin we are stupid hicks...

If we don't want osamabama we are racists but if we want Clarence Thomas we are evil and stupid.

They decide who is woman enough and who is negro enough.

lazs

[Anaxogoras]

You guys do realize that attacking the NYT does nothing to discredit the article, right?  It's called an ad hominem.

[lazs2]

just saying it is a new york times article discredits it.

In exactly the same way that saying it is a National enquirer article on aliens or monkey boys does.

The new york times came out and endorsed osamabama months ago and has worked tirelessly for him..

lazs

[Anaxogoras]

just saying it is a new york times article discredits it.

In exactly the same way that saying it is a National enquirer article on aliens or monkey boys does.

The new york times came out and endorsed osamabama months ago and has worked tirelessly for him..

lazs

Wrong lazs.  If the National Enquirer says "2+2=4," you better believe it.  This is a matter of logic and reason, not politics.

[AKIron]

You're right, we have nothing to worry about from religious leaders.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm

Unlike the athiest leaders who have murdered tens of millions. Them you might want to worry about.

[Bronk]

Wrong lazs.  If the National Enquirer says "2+2=4," you better believe it.  This is a matter of logic and reason, not politics.

Correct, and when the NYT say "they endorse osamabama" you better believe it.  It's not logic or reason with them... it's POLITICS. 

[AKIron]

Wrong lazs.  If the National Enquirer says "2+2=4," you better believe it.  This is a matter of logic and reason, not politics.

Facts are often used to distort the truth. Al Gore even used a couple (giving him the benefit of the doubt) to scare his GWA followers into repentance. Looking at only certain "facts" is not logic and reason.

[Anaxogoras]

Facts are often used to distort the truth. Al Gore even used a couple (giving him the benefit of the doubt) to scare his GWA followers into repentance. Looking at only certain "facts" is not logic and reason.

Of course not.

But we weren't debating facts.  I was pointing out an informal fallacy, which pertains to the rules of inference for a sound argument.

[SkyRock]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26691018

I know this isn't going to change any minds, but I thought it was interesting.  I don't know if I am willing to vote for McCain with her on the ticket.  To be honest, it doesn't matter who I vote for anyway, since Obama is going to win MD pretty handily, but I think I'll be voting for a 3rd party again this time around.

Unfortunately Urch, if one gets to that position, they eventually gain this mindset:

Interviews show that Ms. Palin runs an administration that puts a premium on loyalty and secrecy. The governor and her top officials sometimes use personal e-mail accounts for state business; dozens of e-mail messages obtained by The New York Times show that her staff members studied whether that could allow them to circumvent subpoenas seeking public records.


It is the nature of the business from our two strongest parties.

[AquaShrimp]

yep.. if we don't want billary then we hate and fear women but if we like Palin we are stupid hicks...

If we don't want osamabama we are racists but if we want Clarence Thomas we are evil and stupid.

They decide who is woman enough and who is negro enough.

lazs

This from a guy who calls the Environment Protection Agency "scum bags".

[Bronk]

This from a guy who calls the Environment Protection Agency "scum bags".

And????