Karl Rove: McCain Can't Type

[rpm]

According to Karl Rove, John McCain's war injuries are so great he
has no control over his hands.
To be fair he also said McCain may have kinda sorta itsy bitsy teeny weenie stretched the truth a bit.

[WWhiskey]

According to Karl Rove, John McCain's war injuries are so great he
has no control over his hands.
To be fair he also said McCain may have kinda sorta itsy bitsy teeny weenie stretched the truth a bit.

well i guess they will have too make the red button a little bit bigger!
 

 not many other reasons for him to do anything more than make his mark!
they have Secretaries for all that typing and internet stuff

[FrodeMk3]

According to Karl Rove, John McCain's war injuries are so great he
has no control over his hands.
To be fair he also said McCain may have kinda sorta itsy bitsy teeny weenie stretched the truth a bit.

You know, you'd think there's a way that the Democratic camp could somehow find a way to use this-But Karl Rove's integrity is so compromised, not even the neo-cons believe him anymore. Anything that guy says is immediately suspect, even if he claims the sky is blue.

[Hangtime]

That's why he fits in so well at Fox... a talking sphincter to balance the talking heads.

[lasersailor184]

You know, you'd think there's a way that the Democratic camp could somehow find a way to use this-But Karl Rove's integrity is so compromised, not even the neo-cons believe him anymore. Anything that guy says is immediately suspect, even if he claims the sky is blue.

That's why he's a paid advisor to many republican election committees, right?

[Phaser11]

whatisthebigkeyatthebottomfor?

[FrodeMk3]

That's why he's a paid advisor to many republican election committees, right?

He'll continue to get jobs' with some. I didn't say all the neocons. My guess is, anybody he is involved with, will do their damndest to keep him out of public view.

[Holden McGroin]

You know, you'd think there's a way that the Democratic camp could somehow find a way to use this-But Karl Rove's integrity is so compromised, not even the neo-cons believe him anymore. Anything that guy says is immediately suspect, even if he claims the sky is blue.

Why is it then that the Demos pay so much attention to him?

[FrodeMk3]

Why is it then that the Demos pay so much attention to him?

IMHO, i'm afraid that his biggest value anymore is for propaganda. With the way modern elections' sling mud like a Jerry Springer telethon in a Trailer park, It will take some time for them to quit mentioning his name.

It helps' to hide the real issues, you see...

[MORAY37]

As far as his physical health, I could care less if the guy could type.

I do however, wonder why the left side of his face(HIS left side, right side in pictures) seems to have a bulge that gets larger, by his jawbone.  McCain, being a cancer survivor 3x (4x??) now, that particular area is a hotbed for regrowth due to the amount of vascularization particular to the area.  Prior to election day, I would very much like to see him get a complete update of his physical, which we all know won't happen anyway, or, better said, won't be released in entirety.  The other night at the "Service" forum, it seemed the whole side of his face had started to swell, and it was the worst I had seen it...two other people watching the debate with me made comments on it.

I have serious questions on whether he is free of metastatic cells.


Older pic, but you can see a difference from one side to the other.

[Elfie]

He chews red man tobacco......

[myelo]

The left side of his face looks like that because he had surgery to remove some lymph nodes and part of a salivary gland in case his melanoma on his temple had spread there. Turns out it had not.

His skin cancer is also the reason he is very careful about staying out of the sun -- he's pale and typically wears a hat or cap if he's outside at all.

[MORAY37]

The left side of his face looks like that because he had surgery to remove some lymph nodes and part of a salivary gland in case his melanoma on his temple had spread there. Turns out it had not.

His skin cancer is also the reason he is very careful about staying out of the sun -- he's pale and typically wears a hat or cap if he's outside at all.

I know about his surgery.  I also know alot about cancer. (my master's thesis was tumor development in Chelonia midas, which is not directly applicable in all cases (different immuno-response species wise, but does have relevance.) The observed change in pressure to the region is not completely indicative of either metastastatic cells, nor the eradication of his melanoma.  It could very well be that his surgeon somewhat "botched" his initial surgery (or found something deeper than he expected and removed more), and went into deep muscle tissue that he should not have, causing some compartmentalization. The changes to that area could very well be accounted for in this.  Prudence begs the caution though.... the swelling could also be the vascularization of tumors missed, or even created via the previous surgery. It only takes one cell shaken off the initial tumor to regrow, depending on type.  The area does noticeably swell and shrink quite frequently....I'm simply saying it is a question in my own mind, from my experience.

I'm not sold on his cancer-free statement.

[myelo]

He had a radical exploratory dissection. They took > 30 lymph nodes, salivary gland and soft tissue over the masseter muscle. The puffiness is a combination of scar tissue, prominence of the masseter and impeded lymph drainage. According to the histopath they got clean margins on the tumor and there was no cancer in the sentinel node or surrounding tissue. At 8 years out he's still free of recurrence, hardly a "botched" surgery when your dealing with invasive melanoma. Although I'm sure the doctors at the Mayo clinic would appreciate your second opinion based on your turtle expertise.

Of course he could have a recurrence tomorrow. And Obama could choke to death on a piece of steak tonight.

[MORAY37]

He had a radical exploratory dissection. They took > 30 lymph nodes, salivary gland and soft tissue over the masseter muscle. The puffiness is a combination of scar tissue, prominence of the masseter and impeded lymph drainage. According to the histopath they got clean margins on the tumor and there was no cancer in the sentinel node or surrounding tissue. At 8 years out he's still free of recurrence, hardly a "botched" surgery when your dealing with invasive melanoma. Although I'm sure the doctors at the Mayo clinic would appreciate your second opinion based on your turtle expertise.

Of course he could have a recurrence tomorrow. And Obama could choke to death on a piece of steak tonight.

As usual, the direct attack on me, personally, for having a differing view on facts.  My experience notwithstanding, and I never claimed to be an oncologist, there is a distinctly higher possibility that McCain relapses than someone choking.  The swelling that changes on his face could result from impeded lymph drainage, as well, it could be the initial vestiges of new tumor formation.  Clear margins notwithstanding, there isn't an oncologist worth his salt that declares unequivocally "We got it all." It's simply not possible, when dealing on the single cellular level.  A few cells always slough off during tumor removal, the question on whether they remain viably intact is the mitigating circumstance.  In my family, I've been witness to this exact probability.  You just can't get all of it, it's up to your immune system to target those cells that separate during removal.