Britain Adopts Islamic Law

[Elfie]

Death by a thousand cuts is still death. One sliver at a time you are taken. Apathy makes your resistance fleeting. You are taken without struggle.

The British people have been allowed to settle disputes via an arbiter (as long as both sides agree to it) for some time now. In this particular case the judge wasn't even on duty[/b] when he clarified that muslims can settle their disputes via Sharia law as long as both parties agreed to it. Otherwise the case would go to British courts.

[Hawker25]

Some people obviously didn't read the article or not very closely because in the second line it talks about how the sharia court could deliberate on cases of domestic violence.  Now that is not just a simple arbitration issue.  Considering that most sharia courts treat women more like property than people i think this is sad news for the UK.  Now on the issue of have different arbitration methods under Jewish or Islamic or any other religion, I think that this also should be changed.  Laws should be based on reason not religion.

[MORAY37]

Some people obviously didn't read the article or not very closely because in the second line it talks about how the sharia court could deliberate on cases of domestic violence.  Now that is not just a simple arbitration issue.  Considering that most sharia courts treat women more like property than people i think this is sad news for the UK.  Now on the issue of have different arbitration methods under Jewish or Islamic or any other religion, I think that this also should be changed.  Laws should be based on reason not religion.

I agree there.  Unfortunately, around 70% or higher, of the people on this rock use religion for both.  Until that changes, it will pervade issues such as law, where it should not.

[Elfie]

Some people obviously didn't read the article or not very closely because in the second line it talks about how the sharia court could deliberate on cases of domestic violence.  Now that is not just a simple arbitration issue.  Considering that most sharia courts treat women more like property than people i think this is sad news for the UK.  Now on the issue of have different arbitration methods under Jewish or Islamic or any other religion, I think that this also should be changed.  Laws should be based on reason not religion.

If both parties agree, there is no reason they shouldn't be allowed to choose whichever arbiter they desire. The catch is....both parties have to agree on the arbiter.

[Saxman]

Gee, why does this thread sound familiar....

Oh yeah, because we had the EXACT SAME BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION ALARMIST THREAD IN RESPONSE TO A MISREAD ARTICLE on the exact same subject about 3-4 months ago.

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[Elfie]

Gee, why does this thread sound familiar....

Oh yeah, because we had the EXACT SAME BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION ALARMIST THREAD IN RESPONSE TO A MISREAD ARTICLE on the exact same subject about 3-4 months ago.

Search Button. It's not just for the Wishlist anymore. 

 

[Dowding]

I thought this was an old thread. You mean the gross stupidity and general knee spasms in the previous thread were not one offs?

Oh noes!

For the (second) time. Arbitration can be sought using any code you want, but the judgement must not be outside English law. You could even use Jedi law if you want. Therefore hysterical posts about stoning and hangings at footy matches are a tad... hysterical. UK law looks down on that sort of carry on.

[avionix]

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[FrodeMk3]

Gee, why does this thread sound familiar....

Oh yeah, because we had the EXACT SAME BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION ALARMIST THREAD IN RESPONSE TO A MISREAD ARTICLE on the exact same subject about 3-4 months ago.

Search Button. It's not just for the Wishlist anymore. 

Yeah, but whenever a fisherman has a favorite bait that works well in a particular pond...

[Nashwan]

Bear in mind it's only the press that are calling these "courts". The organisation behind them is the "Muslim Arbitration Tribunal". You can see their website at http://www.matribunal.com/index.html

I can't see them calling their panels "courts" anywhere, that's just a media invention. Even the Times points out (although Fox does not):

Sheikh Faiz-ul-Aqtab Siddiqi, whose Muslim Arbitration Tribunal runs the courts, said he had taken advantage of a clause in the Arbitration Act 1996.

Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

The US has a similar law, the Federal Arbitration Act, and there are Jewish "courts" operating under it. There's nothing to stop Muslims doing the same.

[Saxman]

There's nothing to stop Muslims doing the same.

Nothing except the irrational fear of something or someone different that gives rives to BS like this thread.

[WWhiskey]

the peoples court? european style!

[DREDIOCK]

I havent but.
Has anyone bothered to look at the laws concerning this type of thing works?

Common sense tells me they dont get carte blanche  to do things a any way they like.
That there are some guidlines that need to be met.

[Chalenge]

The British people have been allowed to settle disputes via an arbiter (as long as both sides agree to it) for some time now. In this particular case the judge wasn't even on duty[/b] when he clarified that muslims can settle their disputes via Sharia law as long as both parties agreed to it. Otherwise the case would go to British courts.

It clearly doesnt matter how long arbitration has gone on. Point is that one iota of your legal system has been infiltrated by sharia law (religion and worse a foreign religious influence). Apparently the era of the 'Virgin Queen' taught you English nothing.

[Elfie]

It clearly doesnt matter how long arbitration has gone on. Point is that one iota of your legal system has been infiltrated by sharia law (religion and worse a foreign religious influence). Apparently the era of the 'Virgin Queen' taught you English nothing.

I'm not English......and the English legal system is not my own......

Heck, the English probably wouldn't have me anyways, just ask Dowding and Nashwan.