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Offline Karnak

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2008, 12:24:05 AM »
WWII fighter pilots were not strapped in like that.  The shoulder harnesses were worn loose so that they had the mobility to look around.  I recall a Spitfire pilot saying he could see his vertical stabilizer with ease and a P-51 pilot saying he could look back to his right and see his left horizontal stabilizer.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2008, 01:40:26 AM »
Well, that's interesting. I'm not about to argue with pilot testimony. Unless they had seriously tight lap harnesses their skulls must have taken a slight pounding in tight fights. I'm no stunt pilot or expert but I have flown in a 2 seater, piston engine trainer and during the inverted manuevers I was banging my head on the roof of the canopy of the CJ6 even with the shoulder straps done up tight. I'm not short, though, so perhaps it is a case of different styles of strapping. Suffice to say that I am not just talking out of my a-rse.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2008, 03:59:53 AM »
Don't forget the rearview mirrors.  :rock

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2008, 04:08:31 AM »
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2008, 05:23:31 AM »
Was curious to see just how little rear view angle the new F6F has compared to the old one. Scary, isn't it? :)

This might be useful to compare to any future in-cockpit photos as well.

Personally I feel the old views were unrealistically good. To put your head where it would have to be to see the old 6 view it would need to be resting on the gunsight. OTOH maybe they could allow a little more sideways movement on the rear/45 views to get your head closer to the glass.


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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2008, 06:34:36 AM »
i have no problem with any planes, but the f6f rearview. I love the new F6 look, however im not flying it cause i may as well not look behind me, you cant see anything.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2008, 06:54:45 AM »
i dunno about you,  but i'm a normal human and can rotate my torso and neck around a thing called a spine. my eyes work well too - neat thing called peripheral vision.  if anything we're already more blind in AH in any plane than we ever would be in R/L.  :noid


And in addition to that we have 2 eyes stereo vision, which means depth perception and also kind of enables us to see "through" thinner frames. One can try this with by placing an erect thumb half way between the eyes and the computer screen. The thumb does to cover any text, because each eye can see around it.

So, we cannot have the thing called "realism" on the computer screen, but we can evaluate what is the result of a simulated thinggy compared to the real thing. The 3D model may be exact, but an enemy plane can hide behind it on the computer screen, whereas in real life one would see the enemy all the time.

To me it is a question of principle and main goal... to make a simulation of WW2 planes (engineering approach)... or to make a simulation of WW2 pilots flying those planes, of WW2 air combat (more humanist[?] approach). How to balance between the "technical truth" and the "being there" sides of an issue?


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