War on Drugs gone awry in another case

[Tango]

Well, if she had simply stayed clean after the first bust she wouldn't have been put into that situation. Just goes to show how bad drugs can screw up your life AND your families life.

[Hangtime]

Well, if she had simply stayed clean after the first bust she wouldn't have been put into that situation. Just goes to show how bad drugs can screw up your life AND your families life.

Just another example of gargantuan waste in lives and money.. largest prison population in the US.. billions and billions spent.. millions of people that would otherwise contributing more to society by paying into it instead of being incarcerated by it or hunted by it...

that sack a weed prolly cost us a million.

[Vudak]

Well, if she had simply stayed clean after the first bust she wouldn't have been put into that situation.

And if our lawmakers took their heads out of their asses, she wouldn't have been put into that situation, either.

"It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something. "

- Franklin D. Roosevelt

Regardless of what you think of him, this was good advice.  It's about time we heed it.

[eagl]

that sack a weed prolly cost us a million.

The Judge Dredd approach sounds fairly cost effective...

[Hangtime]

I'd rather have the tax dollars from 50 billion a years worth of weed and prostitution going to funding ammo for Judge Dred's upcoming first annual illegal immigrant hunt.

[Leslie]

The way the Police approached this matter demonstrates how little they know.  I could understand leaning on an actual criminal.  A criminal would have gone to jail if he knew what was good for him in that situation.  A 23 year old college student is an entirely different matter, and it's high time the Police start thinking about public relations, because frankly, that police chief came off as an a s s h o l e.

I would be all in favor for every Police officer to have a college degree and maybe go so far as to have them elected instead of appointed.

They are representatives of the state and how they treat you is how the state treats you.


Les

[Tango]

And if our lawmakers took their heads out of their asses, she wouldn't have been put into that situation, either.


Regardless of what you think of him, this was good advice.  It's about time we heed it.

The cops were wrong doing what they did. They should have used an undercover cop to do that sting and sent the girl off to prison for dealing.

I have no sympathy for drug dealers or users.

[Vudak]

I have no sympathy for drug dealers or users.

Why not?

[nirvana]

Because they are knowingly breaking the law for their own personal gain, pleasure or both.  You pay to play.

[Vudak]

Because they are knowingly breaking the law for their own personal gain, pleasure or both.  You pay to play.

This is enough of a reason to have no sympathy for them as human beings?  To give up on them?  To lump another few strikes against them, and extra mountains to climb?

I love how some people write drug users off as wastes/hopeless/whatever.  Although some aren't ever going to be rehabilitated, I would think a person who was actually able to overcome something like a bad drug addiction would display the sort of drive and tenacity most would say embodies the ideal American.  I'd think they're the sort of Americans worth giving a helping hand to...  The sort of people who might be worth investing in, if only by using tax dollars to send them to a place like a rehab where they can learn new ways to combat their problem, and not to a prison where they develop an even larger network of users and dealers to exacerbate it. 

You're paying for them one way or another.  Send them to a good rehab, and you might actually get some return.

[zuii]

The drug war is silly. All that happens is you put a lot of people in jail and put a lot of money into a huge black-market. Ever since men have walked the earth, someone has gone out to get high, you cant and won't stop it. You can deal with it in a dysfunctional, delusional maner and create more problems.

One would think after "Prohibition" well,,,, in any case, 60 years or more into a "drug war" the same policys fail year after year, wow, talk about beating a dead horse.  

zuii




 

[Slamfire]

Just to put in perspective, that is enough to supply 12-14 friendly clients with a month's worth of personal stash while paying for your own. Depending upon the volume discount

Charon, you should be a weed-defense lawyer  

But seriously, no matter how it's rationalized, it's a lot of weed - and a 1/4 pound is no baggie - it's a BRICK.  

It's mid level dealer tonnage... ie: a dealer that sells to OTHER dealers and never sees end users.

Most street dealers buy (more accurately get "fronted") an ounce at a time - and most end users buy a GRAM at a time (1/28th of an oz).  A gram will get you plenty baked for an evening.  Most drug users do not buy a month's supply at a time.  Hell most don't look past the next 20 mins.

ie: she had enough stuff on her to make 400+ people go to Dairy Queen asking for triple cheeseburgers with sprinkle-butterfinger-blizzards.

So I have my doubts...  if she was so smalltime and innocent, how did she even show up on anyone's radar (not once, but twice)?  And why was she used on such a high profile/dangerous sting ?

The story that she was some innocent kid strung-along by the police doesn't add up in my mind - of course, I don't know the facts either - all I have to go on is that link... I'd like to know more is what I'm saying.

[bongaroo]

Just to put it in perspective, 1/4lbs of decent pot is enough for 224-448 people to get very stoned.

A quap isn't that much actually.

[Slamfire]

A quap isn't that much actually.

It's 4oz, or 112gm (standard unit of dealing).

1gm of good stuff can easily get 4 people (Jamaican's excepted) stoned out of their minds - 8 if it's Canadian Hydro.

I will agree however that 6 pills of ex and a few Valiums is nothing.

[BnZ]

Bong: The War on drugs is a bunch of crap of allright, which this country apparently didn't need for most of its long existence for most people to stay clear-headed and for society to rock along.

But considering all the left-side-of-aisle restrictions on the "one true Freedom", i.e, the right to do whatever you want with yerself and yer own stuff, you'd favor, where do you get off calling foul just because its a pothead thats getting the jack-boot thuggery treatment today?

Anyone else see this?

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5454035

The reporter really makes the police cheif look like a fool and face some questions that he was obviously unprepared to answer.  This ranks right up there with the ninja police forces striking at night breaking down doors and complaining when they get shot at.

Sad stuff.