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Offline Delirium

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2008, 03:34:59 AM »
I forgot who it was, but someone in AH volunteered alot of hours at that museum. Maybe that individual can get the photos we need...
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2008, 03:41:57 AM »
i flew the F6F quit a bit tonight, love it as much now as i did before. plane has crap view, duh. The view we had before was nothing like i had heard descirbed for the F6F, it was to much.

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2008, 03:42:46 AM »
Vudak, they don't open up the F6 for the open cockpit day.

They open the P47, the F4U4, the F100, the F14, and the Huey, but not the F6 or the B25H.

Rats.  Well, at the least I could get a picture of the F4U4's and see if that matches up.  Maybe someone else lives near a Museum where they can get the F6F view.  Or maybe talking to the right person could get a picture taken by an employee. (Edit - Del, you posted while I typed this...  Really though, it's a museum.  They want to spread interest.  It would probably be possible to get this done, albeit not during regular hours and probably not by a regular visitor).

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Xasthur - just simulate it in your own chair...  The field of view is pretty close...  The problem is one side isn't blurred out by peripheral vision.  Just look at it as a concession to that...  Perhaps a few degrees off, but not much.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2008, 03:50:55 AM »
They aren't going to do it for any joe off the street, that is why I recommended we have a current volunteer try and do the camera work.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2008, 05:23:19 AM »
Vudak, make sure you keep your body pressed into the seat when you do that. Our pilot views are waayyyy to mobile, in my opinion.

ww2 pilots weren't strapped in anywhere near as tight as modern day jet pilots.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2008, 05:36:37 AM »
I do not understand why the view behind on the Typhoon and Tempest is so much worse than the bubblejug and mustang - was the armour plate that much bigger?  IIRC the first bubble canopy the Americans used were the same as those on the Typhoon?





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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 06:58:32 AM »
If the Typhoon gets a face lift any time soon, I'm sure they'll even it out a little.

I think it is more to do with the fact that the Jug and 51 are both gen 2 or later models and the Typh is an earlier one, like the Mossie.

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 12:18:34 PM »
Why would every aircraft have a blind 6?
 

Because I don't know about you but I'm not Linda Blair.  I can't turn my head 180 degrees.
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2008, 07:40:42 PM »
You dont have to an owl neck to see behind you in the real Cat. Just like most fighters it would be counter-productive to restrain yourself in such a way you cant move in order to check your own six. Some aircraft even have grips intended for the pilot to hold while pulling Gs so he can keep his mark-1 eyeball on his opponent. At least such devices have been commented on in books I have read and other games (F4AF). Of course even then it will never be a perfectly framed ninety-degree FOV six view. Some concessions just have to be made though IMO or the F6F will become a 'hangar queen.'
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2008, 09:17:10 PM »
You dont have to an owl neck to see behind you in the real Cat. Just like most fighters it would be counter-productive to restrain yourself in such a way you cant move in order to check your own six. Some aircraft even have grips intended for the pilot to hold while pulling Gs so he can keep his mark-1 eyeball on his opponent. At least such devices have been commented on in books I have read and other games (F4AF). Of course even then it will never be a perfectly framed ninety-degree FOV six view. Some concessions just have to be made though IMO or the F6F will become a 'hangar queen.'

I fear that HiTech is trying to make the views "realistic." If that's the case, almost all of the fighters will have severely restricted views compared to what they have now, and the fun factor will suffer accordingly.

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2008, 10:27:01 PM »
Vudak, make sure you keep your body pressed into the seat when you do that. Our pilot views are waayyyy to mobile, in my opinion.

Have you ever flown in a fighter, or even an advanced trainer (AT-6 or T-28)?

These are not F1 racers where the driver is virtually immobile. The shoulder harness is not worn so tight as to restrict pivoting in the seat. I've ridden brakes on an F6F-5 when we towed it from storage. Visibility to the rear is far better than we have now. You easily stick your head out of the canopy to see as you taxi, all the while strapped in for takeoff.


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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2008, 10:43:13 PM »
 

Because I don't know about you but I'm not Linda Blair.  I can't turn my head 180 degrees.

i dunno about you,  but i'm a normal human and can rotate my torso and neck around a thing called a spine. my eyes work well too - neat thing called peripheral vision.  if anything we're already more blind in AH in any plane than we ever would be in R/L.  :noid
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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2008, 10:44:40 PM »
Have you ever flown in a fighter, or even an advanced trainer (AT-6 or T-28)?

These are not F1 racers where the driver is virtually immobile. The shoulder harness is not worn so tight as to restrict pivoting in the seat. I've ridden brakes on an F6F-5 when we towed it from storage. Visibility to the rear is far better than we have now. You easily stick your head out of the canopy to see as you taxi, all the while strapped in for takeoff.


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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2008, 10:51:24 PM »
hmmmm.  Looks like F6Fs will end up like Fw-190s.

Like Fw-190s, F6Fs will rely heavily on wingman tactics.

Fw 190 needs wingman in battle to compensate for lack of sustained manuverability.
F6F needs wingman in battle to watch for each others' 6.

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Re: Which other planes are due for an F6F window adjustment?
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 12:14:22 AM »
i flew the F6F quit a bit tonight, love it as much now as i did before. plane has crap view, duh. The view we had before was nothing like i had heard descirbed for the F6F, it was to much.

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