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Offline FX1

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2008, 01:35:54 PM »
I have never ever PM'd you to tell you that you are a Spit 16 dweeb!  And you've killed my 38G many..many..many times  :furious

Always trying to pigeonhole us 38 drivers FX, for shame! :)

Corky your were my favorite fight in the 38....

I remember back in AvA when we were going toe to toe in the 38G. Many great fights and i never had to climb over 5k to fight ya :aok

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2008, 02:08:24 PM »
I think the problem is people try to fly the 38 like every other plane. this is pretty much impossible you cannot expect to tnb with a spit fore to long befor you quicly lose all advanage and need get away. the 38 has great pros and cons. flying the plane correctly is done the same way you fly all planes correctly. controlling the fight and make a enemy fight in your strong area and not his. basicly the p38 is a boom and zoomer. a 38 above you is a seriouse threat because if they fly it right they pretty much can play with you all day and you cant get up to them. however a p38 survivability is not that great when it is below enemies.


The above is an example of someone talking about the P-38 that has very little experience in flying and fighting in the Lightning.


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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2008, 02:26:50 PM »
Yea because it can turn with the best of them with the right stick,and it is not the best for boom and zooming because of its fast compression rate......I'm not a 38 stick eather but this is what i have learned from flying it so far.
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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2008, 02:55:29 PM »
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Im almost speechless on this one. All i have to say about that is that the P38 L/J/G is probably one of the best planes in the game IMHO. You my friend simply do not know how to fly it. It can be hard to learn but once learned u can dominate the skies.
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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2008, 04:16:58 PM »
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Im almost speechless on this one. All i have to say about that is that the P38 L/J/G is probably one of the best planes in the game IMHO. You my friend simply do not know how to fly it. It can be hard to learn but once learned u can dominate the skies.
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P-38 is IMHO the best fighter in the game! Mind you I'm no good in it but it can do things that single engine aircraft absolutely cannot phisically perform, putting it in a category all its own!! Now the 38 absolutely requires a higher level of expererience and more stick time to use it well, but once the skills are learned it is the BEST plane out there!! Those who have the skills and experience, and choose to use it as there main ride are just as DWEEBY as anyone flyin an LA7! Those who use it just don't want most others to realize how dweebish they are  :rofl :rofl  I'm ready now bring on the heat ! :D

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2008, 04:41:15 PM »
The above is an example of someone talking about the P-38 that has very little experience in flying and fighting in the Lightning.


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Hmmm according to USAAC doctrine of the time the P-38 driver in the attack was to try and "pull lead" for his shot after losing this ability he was to dive away extend and then climb back to alt before resuming any attack.  This was for the PAC where they were fighting zekes of course, and it was felt the 38 could NOT dog fight with the zeke.

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2008, 07:10:39 PM »
Hmmm according to USAAC doctrine of the time the P-38 driver in the attack was to try and "pull lead" for his shot after losing this ability he was to dive away extend and then climb back to alt before resuming any attack.  This was for the PAC where they were fighting zekes of course, and it was felt the 38 could NOT dog fight with the zeke.

BTW for those that don't know USAAC is U. S. Army Air Corps.

I'm not going to sit here and argue with two people that have very little experience (if any at all) in flying and fighting the Lightning in AH.  As I pointed out in my original reply, the poster I quoted has no clue as to what the P-38 can and can't do in AH.  Please show me where I am incorrect about what a P-38 is capable of in game.

BTW- For those that don't know...the USAAC was changed to the USAAF (United States Army Airforce) in 1941.

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #52 on: September 22, 2008, 08:59:51 PM »
I flew the P-38 exclusively for a couple of tours a while back.  I did decently in it, but it took a while to do so -- I had to get used to the compression.  It's a decent plane in AH -- not really horrible at any particular thing, but not best at any particular thing (in my opinion, anyway -- and that's in AH, not in real life that I'm talking about).  I don't consider the cannon ammo load all that important -- the 4 50's all concentrated in the nose seem plenty lethal, and you have lots and lots of that ammo.

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #53 on: September 22, 2008, 09:33:08 PM »
The P-38 is a great airplane. Without question the best 20 eny + one we have.

There are some other really good ones. Like the Yak and P-39. But none can match what the 38 is capable of. A flight going in heavy can shut down any airbase on the map and still have the legs to hang around a long time.

Really a pity we dont have more high Alt P-38 missions.
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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #54 on: September 22, 2008, 10:26:29 PM »
Really a pity we dont have more high Alt P-38 missions.

Because the usual MA fights are lower than that and most won't know how to handle the P-38 at those altitudes. 


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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #55 on: September 22, 2008, 11:11:55 PM »
The P-38 is a great airplane. Without question the best 20 eny + one we have.

There are some other really good ones. Like the Yak and P-39. But none can match what the 38 is capable of. A flight going in heavy can shut down any airbase on the map and still have the legs to hang around a long time.

Really a pity we dont have more high Alt P-38 missions.

Shoulda been around when we were escorting  17s and 24s during DGS,  32K full fuel and DTs.  Long flights and fights.
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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2008, 01:13:28 AM »
Shoulda been around when we were escorting  17s and 24s during DGS,  32K full fuel and DTs.  Long flights and fights.

I was sort of (I was a B-17 pilot).  Indeed -- I agree with you.  I'm speaking mainly of the Main Arena, where the P-38, while a decent airplane, doesn't have some of its strengths come into play.

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2008, 07:48:15 AM »
Why the P-38?

Why not the P-38?  ;)

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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2008, 06:37:19 PM »
FX1, I understand why you dont like the 38, you actually have to work to do what a rock could do in a spit16.  Sorry, I think I would spank you in a bad way coalt 38 vs spit16.  If I was to actually hop into a spit16, it would take half the turns to accomplish the same task.    :rolleyes:



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Re: Why the P-38?
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2008, 07:33:25 PM »
That's why you see most good vets in the 38 at 15k. The more i think about it the 38 is just not my cup of tea. What i look for in a plane is the ability to start a fight when my gears goes up.

I play more in the defencive # con's game and that not one of the 38 best roles.

Does make for a nice jabo plane..