ostis gonna lose the inviso crew shield in 1.06?

[Eagler]

a freakin pellet gun should take out the gunner in an open cockit as the ost....

maybe AH has it this way so they can run up their score  

Eagler

ps and what's wrong with the spelchkar???

[Pongo]

 http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum9/HTML/001251.html

[Pongo]

I think they might not have crew. The gun would be hard to destroy with mg or cannon fire, but the crew would be easy. I believe there is no crew in the panzer model. I dont recall ever being wounded in one.

[Fishu]

Theres wounds in panzer, though, usually by cannon shells and no effect whatsoever..  (and usually from behind  )

I'd like to see only AP hispano shells, those APHE things are boring

One thing that I wonder, is how though halftracks can be against .50 caliber, when already 7.92mm machinegun would be enough to chew up on such halftrack...
I did once fly B-26, making passes over M3 and shooting what I had, and got only suspension out after few passes, then I were out of ammo and one engine shot up.
(could think that strafing from above would kill the crew shooting at the plane  )

Rifle sized bullets does almost nothing for a halftrack in the game, no matter how close those are shot..
with 500 rounds of 7.92mm from close range I'd guess that M3/M16 would be quite chewed up   (if not anything else, at least crew would be shot up)
Those armor plates shouldn't be THAT thick in M2/M3 halftracks.

[Jigster]

 

Originally posted by Fishu:
Theres wounds in panzer, though, usually by cannon shells and no effect whatsoever..  (and usually from behind   )

I'd like to see only AP hispano shells, those APHE things are boring

One thing that I wonder, is how though halftracks can be against .50 caliber, when already 7.92mm machinegun would be enough to chew up on such halftrack...
I did once fly B-26, making passes over M3 and shooting what I had, and got only suspension out after few passes, then I were out of ammo and one engine shot up.
(could think that strafing from above would kill the crew shooting at the plane   )

Rifle sized bullets does almost nothing for a halftrack in the game, no matter how close those are shot..
with 500 rounds of 7.92mm from close range I'd guess that M3/M16 would be quite chewed up   (if not anything else, at least crew would be shot up)
Those armor plates shouldn't be THAT thick in M2/M3 halftracks.

7.92mm rifle rounds...armored half track...that's often exposed to German small arms...that are generally 7.92mm...at very close proximity...think about it  

Also the M-16 seemed to be rather short changed on effective range -- crew's were trained to open up inside of 3,000  yrds. As company support that's generally 3-4 M-16's firing at that range. Apparently it worked, because they were more effective at that range then the M-15a1.

[MiG Eater]

The turret armor in an Ostwind looks more suited to protecting against small caliber ground fire than fire from an aircraft.  If aircraft were the main perceived threat to the crew then there isn't much sense to leave any opening larger than a hole to sight through.  I understand the basic weight and mobility issues of armor, but a dead crew can't fight.  

With regards to heavier weapons, like bombs, the overpressure from a 500 lb'er would incapacitate the crew in an open turret  from anywhere within a hundred yards even if they didn't get hit by shrapnel.  

Yet, the Ostwind's hardness does enhance gameplay when desperately trying to defend a field from capture and GV's are your only option.

MiG

[Jigster]

Keep in mind, with regard to the M-16 and Ostwind, that AH pilots in no way resemble how mobile AAA guns were dealt with in real life.

Aircraft fire wouldn't be very high on the Ostwind's threat list, unless there are some suicidal pilots buzzing around. But there aren't AAA platoon to worry about either.

- Bess