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Offline Mr No Name

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2008, 01:40:21 PM »
It's funny (to me) that a guy with Robert E. Lee as his avatar talks about any sort of anti-Americanism.



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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2008, 01:48:09 PM »
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2008, 02:13:22 PM »
Nope.  Supreme Court is with the schools on this one.  Similar to the Bong rips for Jesus poster some kid made somewhere.

That does not make it right.  The Supreme Court's seemed to think it could legislate from the bench for far too long.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nothing in the 1st Amendment says anything about your right to free speech being offensive (also called disruptive) to others. 

The kid's 1st Amendment Right was broken.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2008, 02:38:46 PM »
All the school needs to do is prove the shirt caused a disruption, or that it might "genuinely threaten disruption".  The supreme court precedent is pretty cut and dry on this matter.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2008, 02:41:11 PM »
That father should be ashamed of himself.  Most eleven year old kids don't have enough information to make an informed political decision.  He's just regurgitating what his father has told him.

If the father wants to make a political statement then he should wear the shirt to work, nothing wrong with that.  Using your child to make a statement and distract him from just being a normal kid is pathetic.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2008, 02:46:36 PM »
Yeah, seriously.  A teacher would fail you for stating your disbelief in a god.  A friend of mine actually got her suspended over that.

If you all are going to start whining about liberal schooling you should all be pissed off about the conservative indoctrination that goes on as well.  No reason to be hypocrites.

If someone was to put a gun to her head and pull the hammer back, I bet the first thing out of her mouth would be "Oh my God".....


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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2008, 03:51:15 PM »
Thought you don't get amendment rights 'till you're 18 anyway?
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2008, 03:54:53 PM »
All the school needs to do is prove the shirt caused a disruption, or that it might "genuinely threaten disruption".  The supreme court precedent is pretty cut and dry on this matter.

Legislating from the bench is not correct.

The 1st Amendment provides no clause in it that allows for the "disruptive; aka offensive" excuse.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2008, 04:02:36 PM »
If it fits the liberal agenda to suspend him....then he'll get outed.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2008, 04:03:11 PM »
If it fits the liberal agenda to suspend him....then he'll get outed.

Freedom of speech is only good when it says what you like and agree with.

Ain't that the truth.
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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2008, 04:23:31 PM »
If anything reminds me of how much the world has changed in my lifetime its a visit to a grammar school.

We once had a 7th grader who knifed his teacher. We have gang fights in grammar schools. Even the Catholic schools now days have kids with mouths on em like you wouldn't believe.

In my day we wore uniforms with ties, had to have haircuts, prayed every day, and considered our daily oath of allegiance to our country an honor. If you opened your yap or showed bad manners, you'd might get a warning but most likely would catch a crack upside your head. If you really stepped out of line, like made a face at a teacher or cussed, they'd smack you so hard your feet wouldn't touch the ground until two days later. In the meantime you'd be begging them not to tell your old man and you'd be praying like heck for God to forgive you for being such a little schmuck.

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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2008, 04:23:57 PM »
The difference between this kids shirt (besides the crappy kindergarten graphics) and the banner Bong hits for Jesus (or whatever it was) is this t-shirt is making a political statement which the first amendment is designed to protect and the banner was simply glorifying drug use. This kid (and his dad) might actually have a basis for suing on the grounds that his constitutional rights were violated.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2008, 04:25:13 PM »
idk, I'm buying one that says 'Keep Working, Millions on Welfare depend on YOU!' I think that's about as far as Political shirts get until november. Then, I might wear a McCain/Palin 08 shirt.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2008, 04:25:47 PM »
The difference between this kids shirt (besides the crappy kindergarten graphics) and the banner Bong hits for Jesus (or whatever it was) is this t-shirt is making a political statement which the first amendment is designed to protect and the banner was simply glorifying drug use. This kid (and his dad) might actually have a basis for suing on the grounds that his constitutional rights were violated.

The other kid had a basis as well.  Regardless if it was promoting bong hits for a deity, it was his right to express his belief.
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Re: 11 y/o student suspended for wearing...
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2008, 05:05:13 PM »
That father should be ashamed of himself.  Most eleven year old kids don't have enough information to make an informed political decision.  He's just regurgitating what his father has told him.

The kid seems way more informed than a lot on these boards.
Imagine that............a father teaching a kid what he believes in.
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