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Offline bj229r

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #135 on: September 25, 2008, 05:54:31 AM »
Did Eisenhower screw up the interstate highway system?

Did NASA screw up the trip to the moon?


Can't come up with anything in the last 4 decades? :D
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Offline bongaroo

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #136 on: September 25, 2008, 08:25:39 AM »
Absolutely true.  Guys who had been nothing a couple years before were selling mortgages to banks left and right.  Applicants only had to state their income, no verification required.  The banks were duped, and then the international investment firms were duped.  Now, we're the ones who are supposed to be duped in full knowledge that it's happening.

The banks were anything but duped.  They ran the numbers.  They stood to make money and went after it. 

Don't make them out to be the victims.
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Offline lazs2

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #137 on: September 25, 2008, 08:42:47 AM »
Have you driven on the interstate highway system lately?  it is broke and falling apart.. for exactly the reasons we need less government.. because they are spending the money on social programs that they should be spending.. that we are paying in road taxes..  on the frigging roads.

The trip to the moon..  lets face it.. that cost one whole buttload of money and..  private companies will do it better and cheaper..   what did we get out of it from the 60's until today?   

The only waste that we should support is raising an army and protecting the country.   It is a huge waste but good comes from it.. the real space program was defense.. the cell phones and internet and GPS and all were products of defense.. the sats... not a trip to the moon.

medical improvements were war in large parts..

I will admit to one lefty useless government program that my hypocracy will bear..  the national parks system.. the beauty of this country needs to be preserved for all and not fenced off by a private developer.

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #138 on: September 25, 2008, 08:55:31 AM »
The trip to the moon..  lets face it.. that cost one whole buttload of money and..  private companies will do it better and cheaper..   what did we get out of it from the 60's until today?   


The space race pushed many amazing products into the public domain.  How about the cordless drill?

Smoke detectors, pacemakers, breathing devices for firemen, water filtration systems and advanced home insulation are just a few of the products that NASA and the companies it works with have perfected.  Lots of other cool stuff too.  Just do a google search.

http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9811/03/nasa.byproducts/index.html

Claiming it did us no good is just ignorance.

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Offline Dos Equis

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #139 on: September 25, 2008, 11:35:06 AM »
Can't come up with anything in the last 4 decades? :D

Ronald Reagan giving weapons to Contras.

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #140 on: September 25, 2008, 11:36:50 AM »
Can't come up with anything in the last 4 decades? :D

How about the Alaska bridge to nowhere? It's probably really nice and smooth.

The one that Palin was for before she was against it. While still keeping the money. The one that Ted 'about to see prison' Stevens helped push through.


Offline Mr No Name

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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #141 on: September 25, 2008, 11:58:45 AM »
Ronald Reagan giving weapons to Contras.

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I am damned glad and grateful he gave weapons to ANYONE fighting communists.  I wish we had given them far far more!!!
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Re: The Bailout
« Reply #142 on: September 25, 2008, 01:36:06 PM »
I am damned glad and grateful he gave weapons to ANYONE fighting communists.  I wish we had given them far far more!!!

It didn't result in the overthrow of that country's government, though-Hell, Daniel Ortega managed to get elected back into power.

Now, to get back into the subject of the bailout...Saw this that might indicate some action:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_bi_ge/financial_meltdown

I don't see how they can make this work by trying to make Wall Street bail itself out, though...from the article:

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Key lawmakers in Washington said at midday that few difficulties actually remained, although no details of their accord were immediately available.

"There really isn't much of a deadlock to break," said Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

But there were fresh signs of trouble in the House Republican Caucus. A group of GOP lawmakers circulated an alternative designed to attract private capital back into the credit markets with less government intrusion.

Under the proposal, the government would provide insurance to companies that agree to buy frozen assets, rather than purchase them directly as envisioned under the administration's plan. The firms would have to pay insurance premiums to the Treasury Department for the coverage.

"The taxpayers haven't done anything wrong," said Rep Eric Cantor, R-Va., adding that rather than require them to bear the cost of the bailout, the alternative "pretty much puts the burden on Wall Street over time."

Rep. John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, the minority leader, was huddling with McCain on the rescue. Earlier, asked whether the GOP presidential nominee could corral restive Republicans to support the plan, Boehner said, "Who knows?"

And Rep. Spencer Bachus of Alabama, the only House Republican in the bargaining meeting, did not directly say he agreed with the other lawmakers who emerged describing an imminent deal.
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