Kazaa's Training Clips.avi

[Kazaa]

This is only a sample but please do take a look and tell me what you gents think, would it be worth doing more? I can even add narrations if you can handle what Bruv119 would call a cockney chav accent.

Stream or download for better quality.

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http://www.4shared.com/account/file/69342555/d0c610e5/Reversal101.html

edit: I'll have to check my compression, It should be better quality. Sorry.

[FLOTSOM]

That is good.

but if you are doing this for training purposes for those of us who could use the help, then my i make one suggestion? slow it down when you make a move and maybe go to an outside view when you explain your move. this would allow us to see where you are in relation to your opponent.

the maneuver looked good and your set up for the shot was great, but i have no idea what you did or how you did it. I couldn't replicate it only from the view of it in the film.

<SALUTE> your efforts and thank you from the novices

FLOTSOM

[Joker]

Nice video Kazaa, but several suggestions:

I also found it difficult to really tell what you were doing from the views in the clip. The subtitles were a help but a little distracting to read while trying to watch the planes, since the action is fast.

I would also like to see a outside views, with both planes shown.

I think narration, explaining your moves as you make them would be a big help.

     
     Joker

[Max]

Good stuff Kazaa, thanks for doing that.

My suggestions, slow it down at least 1/3rd and add narration.

[flatiron1]

i think I would stick with just the cockpit view for this purpose. the wing, rear views made it hard to follow what u were doing

[PFactorDave]

Personally, I prefer to watch ahf format film when trying to learn something.  I find the ability to view the action from numerous different angles and viewpoints to be invaluable.

I always start with the cockpit view, then I watch again from an external view.  Then I usually will watch it from the targets cockpit and external viewpoints.  I'll also go through it with and without the trails turned on.

[The Fugitive]

I love that move, but its a "timing" move and is very dependent on the enemy's "E" difference to yours.  I think that if you slowed it down, and used a voice over to explain the distance the target is as you are making the move would go a long way in teaching the move with this film.

Nice job!

[FLOTSOM]

Personally, I prefer to watch ahf format film when trying to learn something.  I find the ability to view the action from numerous different angles and viewpoints to be invaluable.

I always start with the cockpit view, then I watch again from an external view.  Then I usually will watch it from the targets cockpit and external viewpoints.  I'll also go through it with and without the trails turned on.

If i watched these films on my desktop then i would agree with you, but alas i usually check the board on my laptop. My laptop having vista and being a touch shy of great leaves me unable to watch AH films on it if they are left in the original ahf format. so i appreciate it when the format is changed into something that will allow me to watch it on my LT.

besides that even when watching from multiple angels inside outside trails on and off ect, i still preffer it when the pilot explains his moves and what he is watching for his opponent to do. it allows me to understand what he is thinking and how he reaches his conclusions than just watching the film itself.

additionally i cant see or measure how much of each possible thing he is doing at any given time. was that just aileron? where is his throttle at? did he use a little or alot of rudder there? ect.

And let us not forget the laziness factor   if i can glean all of the information out of one viewing and listening to the pilots explanation of his actions as i will out o 4 or 5 viewings and then guessing at what i think I'm seeing, well Laziness prevails!!!!

<SALUTE>

FLOTSOM

p.s. no need to correct my grammar, i plan on enrolling in English for Beginners next quarter!  

[PFactorDave]

If i watched these films on my desktop then i would agree with you, but alas i usually check the board on my laptop. My laptop having vista and being a touch shy of great leaves me unable to watch AH films on it if they are left in the original ahf format. so i appreciate it when the format is changed into something that will allow me to watch it on my LT.
Understandable, but I'm sure that if there was a training film of something you really wanted to learn, you would use your more powerful computer.

besides that even when watching from multiple angels inside outside trails on and off ect, i still preffer it when the pilot explains his moves and what he is watching for his opponent to do. it allows me to understand what he is thinking and how he reaches his conclusions than just watching the film itself.
I agree, which is the number one reason why the films that Agent360 made are so very useful.  Of course, Agent360's films are also in ahf format so all of the other advantages I mentioned exist there also.

additionally i cant see or measure how much of each possible thing he is doing at any given time. was that just aileron? where is his throttle at? did he use a little or alot of rudder there? ect.
Also agreed.

And let us not forget the laziness factor   if i can glean all of the information out of one viewing and listening to the pilots explanation of his actions as i will out o 4 or 5 viewings and then guessing at what i think I'm seeing, well Laziness prevails!!!!
   Well, I never have understood the reasoning behind catering to the least common denominator.  But that's just me, I guess.  But in truth, I agree that a good narration would make ANY training film more useful.

As for your English, I've seen much worse from people who have no excuse.

I want to make it clear that I am not trying to belittle Kazaa's project.  I applaud anyone who makes an effort to create training films.  I love them.  I 'll take all the training films I can get my hands on.  I was just trying to point out that there might be some advantages, from a training standpoint, to presenting the films in AHF format.

[FLOTSOM]

I want to make it clear that I am not trying to belittle Kazaa's project.  I applaud anyone who makes an effort to create training films.  I love them.  I 'll take all the training films I can get my hands on.  I was just trying to point out that there might be some advantages, from a training standpoint, to presenting the films in AHF format.

guess ill have to get over being lazy.

Agreed 

[Kazaa]

Thanks gents for taking the time to watch my movie sample, your feedback is really appreciated.

I would eventually be aiming for something that will explain in as much detail as possible about what’s going through my head in a certain situation, how, why I reacted and the end result.

Back when I was a rookie, I got totally slapped about by some of the best sticks around and you can bet I recorded every second of it. I would sit down and watch them back religiously to see what sort of black magic they were using on me at the time.

Now I know .ahf files are regularly available and a great source of learning, but I would have progressed with my ACM a lot quicker if I had someone to sit down and explain to me, step by step, all the things that I just couldn’t comprehend back in the day from just watching .afh files.

I’ll add narration and slow key parts down, maybe a few different angles to boot. I’ll even throw in the .ahf file so you can study it from the perspective of your choosing.

Give me a bit of time and I’ll do my best.

<S>. Kaz.

[A8TOOL]

Sorry Kazaa but I could not veiw your movie for some reason. Maybe your making changes to it, I'll try again later.


I made a few films for my squad trying to help explain the importance of Throttle management. A few of the guys really got it and went from maybe making one kill to making many after understanding it's concept. Without throttle management many of our guys were just blowing right by most opportunities to a get kills like maybe some of you.

The film is slightly long but has quite a few kills. 8 in all with the first part 1 of the film having 5 or 6 I think. It will explain how and when to use wep, manage throt in a turn, rudder use and how it's not wise to waste ammo spraying and praying.

I had Crazy talking to me most of the time while trying to make this film but he turned out to be a great help..even tho he beat me to the punch on a few of the kills

Even tho the film was not made for the masses I hope many of you can get something out of it. 

http://download40.mediafire.com/oxtjwdgbhjmg/dnmjynnbh3t/Throt+training+2_0001.ahf

[dkff49]

Not sure what is going on Kazaa but I am also having troubles viewing the link. Maybe the site is having tech difficulties since it seems to be going up ad down.

My opinion on training films is this.

Narration is a significant help. This is espescially true for newer playerwho are looking for answers like how and why a maneuver was performed. Newer players find it very difficult to watch all the important aspects at the same time like throttle management, use of flaps, timing, speed, control surfaces and telling them these things and their importance to the respective "move" would have helped me in the begining.

AHF or video format: I think both are excellent for different reasons and anyone who provides the right info on both for same subject has found the Holy Grail of training films. Video formats are good to show the important angles and aspects in one non-stop viewing and allows the viewer to get a basic understanding using only one start to finish video. This is also a good way to teach the newer player to find the important aspects present in films and where to find them.

The films have their important points too like allowing the more advanced player to find the smaller details that would help themsleves and to allow them to offset the films a little more to get a bigger picture of the fight at hand. Not to mention any film showing every important points,down to smallest details would very long and would take so long to make that it may not ever get done.

I guess the easy way to put this is video for getting things started and showing basics of fight or maneuver and film for more advanced features of fight and/or maneuver.

My hat is off to all these guys who take the time to make these training tools no matter what format they put them in. I have found both to be very helpful and most anybody can come away from these with a better or refreshed understanding of the game. I am glad that Kazaa is planning on offering both formats like many of the training films from the trainers website. I believe that they did theirs that way for the same reasons as above plus it allows people to watch them on computers that don't belong to them, like I do sometimes especially at work where they would not like me downloading the game for the filmviewer.

 

edit: I have now been able to download. Looks good. I must agree though that narration would be a helpful addition. 

[MjTalon]

Favorite move i love to use while in my P47. Catches everything except a spit 16 all of the time.