P47M...Hmm

[1pLUs44]

I remember a report of how a guy from (I think) the 56th flying a 47M along some Temps, after the temps tried to show some speed, he just blew right past em!

[Hooligan]

P-47M is essentially a D-40 with reduced drag (no hardpoints for ord) and more horsepower.  It is about 30 mph faster than a D-40, climbs about an additional 300 ft/min, accelerates about 7% better and should turn a bit better because of the improved power loading.  Probably not an uber MA fighter (at typical MA altitudes) but probably good enough to see a lot of MA usage.  Below 10,000 feet with WEP engaged speed, climb and acceleration are similar to a P-51D with WEP.  Without WEP for either, 51D would have a noticeable edge over 47M (a 51 gets about a 10% HP boost from WEP and an 47M gets about a 28% boost).

Hooligan

[Masherbrum]

P-47M would make a great perk fighter like the F4U-4.

I've rarely had an F4U-4 shoot me down, on the other hand, they more often than not fall from my gunsight, to the text buffer.   

[BnZ]

No ords, performance similar to P-51 at typical alts, but only for 5 minutes. Definitely a non-perker.

[Gixer]

New aircraft.. Another US fighter and another P47 variant? Just what the plane set needs. Might as well bring in some new P38s and F4Us as well... 


<S>...-Gixer

[Guppy35]

New aircraft.. Another US fighter and another P47 variant? Just what the plane set needs. Might as well bring in some new P38s and F4Us as well... 


<S>...-Gixer

That was my point Gixer.  I'd love a Spit XII or P38H.  The Jug drivers would like the 47M.  But we have enough variants of those birds right now, that it makes far more sense in my opinion anyway, to hope for birds we don't have.

Beaufighter would be nice

[Hooligan]

The P-47s we have now are not very good MA planes.  It would be nice to have a 47 that was that was a good MA plane.  Kind of like it would be good to have another spitfire if only spitfires of mk V and less were available.

Hooligan

[bj229r]

I tried my level damnedest to use D-40/D-25  as an everyday MA dogfighter, but getting down in the weeds is usually a death sentence unless I'm in a numbers positive situation--that 8 or so min of WEP with the N gives a good opportunity to do just that. I've seen a few guys that have that skill, but LOL I'm fairly confident I'll not be one any time soon, so I'm back to N

[BnZ]

I tried my level damnedest to use D-40/D-25  as an everyday MA dogfighter, but getting down in the weeds is usually a death sentence unless I'm in a numbers positive situation--that 8 or so min of WEP with the N gives a good opportunity to do just that. I've seen a few guys that have that skill, but LOL I'm fairly confident I'll not be one any time soon, so I'm back to N

The N has five minutes of WEP.

I would give large sums of money and rights to future offspring for an M/N with 8 minutes of WEP.

[SmokinLoon]

Thing is... the P47M was a fighter and nothing more.  It would be one dimensional.  No ord.  I see it being used like the Typh/Tempest is now.

I say keep adding.  If the base model is already in game, it would take that much less to add it in game vs adding in a whole new platform.  The P47M, Spit12, Bf109G-12, Yak-x, P38x, Mossi-x, P40x, etc etc.  Get them added.  They are the easiest to add.

[Anaxogoras]

Thing is... the P47M was a fighter and nothing more.  It would be one dimensional.  No ord.  I see it being used like the Typh/Tempest is now.

I say keep adding.  If the base model is already in game, it would take that much less to add it in game vs adding in a whole new platform.  The P47M, Spit12, Bf109G-12, Yak-x, P38x, Mossi-x, P40x, etc etc.  Get them added.  They are the easiest to add.

The 109G-12 was a two seat trainer.  I think you mean the G-10.

[iTunes]

In  the reality of the AH world, it wouldn't matter if it could 750mph at 30k, The horde would only take it up to a max of about 12k and then say "This new Jug is rubbish"
Look at some of the great crates we have at our disposal in here, Most of them are excellent at 20k + but as usual they are used for vulching, hording etc at around 6k and down.
Bet you a few bucks that the majority would be thinking " Can I get a good vulch on with this new crate"?

[bj229r]

The N has five minutes of WEP.

I would give large sums of money and rights to future offspring for an M/N with 8 minutes of WEP.

However much it has, it's enough, when managed properly (i.e. NOT using it in climbout) I cycle it an and off 30-40 X in a flight, being careful of engine temp---use it like nitrous

[Wmaker]

I'm against "barely saw action late war monsters" when they draw HTC's art resources to make them.

This isn't really the case with P-47M or 109G-10 for that matter. Both are asked a lot, both would see a lot of use in the MAs and neither of them would really draw that much HTC's resources. Pyro would have to compute the flight models but being variants I can't see that being too big of a deal. Fester already had nice JG 6 skin which he intented to the K-4 that could be used as a default skin. I'm sure the skinner team would be fast at work to produce default skin for the P-47M as well.

What is the point in crying "WE DON'T NEED THESE, SAW TOO LITTLE ACTION!" when they could almost be done for free?

[BnZ]

However much it has, it's enough, when managed properly (i.e. NOT using it in climbout) I cycle it an and off 30-40 X in a flight, being careful of engine temp---use it like nitrous

Both the 190 D9 and the P-47N are very mediocre performers compared to other LW planes sans WEP. Well, at 30K the Jug is a monster either way, but I'm talking typical MA alts.

The difference is, in the D9 I never find myself short on WEP when I want it, the P-47N, it is something you've got to think about constantly.

Kind of a tragedy too, because come on, an R-2800 with water-injection could easily pull 70" MAP without failing for ten minutes, you know it and I know it. But, got to be a limit somewhere I suppose.