major problem with video card

[Allen Rune]

I'm still having way to many problems with the driver, I downloaded the one it recommended and run it and when it finnishes it says "The system has not been modified. To install this program at a later time, run the instalation again."


forgot to mention, my disc drive doesn't work so the cd that came with it is useless to me

[BaldEagl]

Have you disabled on-board video and uninstalled previous video drivers yet?

[drdeathx]

Fugitive. 1st of all we do not know what his video card is and you need to find the latest drivers for whatever card he uses latest drivers are always the best. Now if you install older drivers and want to update, it is sometimes best to uninstall old drivers and reinstall new and he would have to go thought his process again. ATI recommends that you uninstall old drivers before reinstalling new and they actually have an unnstall program in the driver download. Yes it probably will work with the drivers from the disk but if you read his post his disc drive DOES NOT WORK!

Again what video card do you have? We can help you better with this information. ATI needs net2.0 installed not net 1.0 or net 3.0.

Allen please reply with your video card and I will get you the link to the latest drivers!

[BaldEagl]

BTW, disc drives cost about $20 these days.  I'd suggest you splurge and get one.

[drdeathx]

BTW net 2.0 comes on ATI disk  and it is needed this is why I am asking.Bald eagle is correct. Get a new disk drive!

[The Fugitive]

Fugitive. 1st of all we do not know what his video card is and you need to find the latest drivers for whatever card he uses latest drivers are always the best. Now if you install older drivers and want to update, it is sometimes best to uninstall old drivers and reinstall new and he would have to go thought his process again. ATI recommends that you uninstall old drivers before reinstalling new and they actually have an unnstall program in the driver download. Yes it probably will work with the drivers from the disk but if you read his post his disc drive DOES NOT WORK!

Again what video card do you have? We can help you better with this information. ATI needs net2.0 installed not net 1.0 or net 3.0.

Allen please reply with your video card and I will get you the link to the latest drivers!

The bold statement above is so wrong it is unbelievable! Do a search on these boards for "artifacts" or graphic anomalies" and you will find hundreds of posts about people who have had all kinds of trouble with drivers that are just too new.

I know for a fact that the newest drivers for the ATI cards will cause all kinds of trouble with the 9800 series of cards. I also use to use the 4.12s on my 850XT card. Newer is NOT always best.

[Skuzzy]

I believe you only need the NET framework if you install the Catalyst Control Center.  There are better and less intrusive, lower CPU usage third party control panels available.  Catalyst Control Center is a bloated pig.  Avoid installing the .NET framework will be a good thing for your computer.

And the latest drivers are absolutely not the best drivers for many video cards.  If you have a 5000 series, or eaelier NVidia card, then then best driver is the 61.77.  NVidia stops optimizing drivers for each line of cards as they move forward.  The latest drivers are optimized for the latest cards.

ATI is the same way.  The Catalyst 4.12 drivers are still the best drivers for all 9000 series ATI cards.

You need to stop making these claims drdeathx.  I know you want you want to help, but this is just going to cause a lot of problems if people did what you say.

[FLOTSOM]

You need to stop making these claims drdeathx.  I know you want you want to help, but this is just going to cause a lot of problems if people did what you say.

a personal message explaining this would have been far more appropriate than a smack in public. he is trying to help, we are not all as smart as required for home programing, he is giving his best. i apreciate his effort even if i dont use his advice, cause at least he is willing to sit down and try to come up with an answer. many in this community who have alot more expierience and know how couldnt be bothered to help.

besides Skuzzy, the retarded we sound in our posts the faster you seem to reply to them to keep us in the great unwashed masses from crashing our computers!!!!!! you sure he wasnt doing it just to make you respond faster??????

i thank all of you (drderthx and esspecially Skuzzy) for your input on any techincal matter that i may learn something from. even if it wasnt my post to begin with<SALUTE>

and ALLEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!are you ever gonna get around to telling us what kind your sound card is????!!!!!!!

FLOTSOM

[drdeathx]

Not trying to smack just trying to get the guy who posted to put his vid card on and read the forum before replying.. Sry

[drdeathx]

Flotsom had the ATI 4870 x 2 but after reading forums(amd) and looked only 1 cpu was working. The card had a lotta problems in genneral. I am now using Nvidea gtx 280

[drdeathx]

Skuzzy just wanted to post the most current drivers available... Tryin to get Allen to post his vid card.. I will get the link for him as to the latest drivers for that card

[Skuzzy]

a personal message explaining this would have been far more appropriate than a smack in public. he is trying to help, we are not all as smart as required for home programing, he is giving his best. i apreciate his effort even if i dont use his advice, cause at least he is willing to sit down and try to come up with an answer. many in this community who have alot more expierience and know how couldnt be bothered to help.
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A personal message would not have conveyed to everyone reading those recommedations to ignore them.  I cannot afford to have anyone making recommendations which I know will cause problems for them.

Yes, when people make good recommendations, I do not need to post.  So I do not.  When people make bad recommendations, I will post to try and correct it.

Regardless of the intentions, if anyone makes bad recommendations, I will let everyone know it is bad.  A personal message is not going to solve the problem created by bad recommendations.  There are many people in this forum who have a good deal of valuable information and are willing to help.  I am glad they are here.

By the way, I do not come to your place of business and tell you how to do your job.  I would apppreciate the same respect.  I do not publicly call people out, just for giggles.  My only concern is making sure someone who asks for help gets it.  Bad recommendations do not help anyone and can make things worse.

I find it ironic you ask me to PM him for making seriously incorrect recommendations which can screw up someones computer, and then you call me out publicly, for pointing out to everyone the information is wrong and he needs to stop making a habit of doing it.

[Delirium]

I have been looking over this forum for some time, I'll be building my new machine some time early next year.

If the issue was handled via PM, I would not know the advice wasn't sound. I happen to agree with Skuzzy on this one.

[Allen Rune]

Sorry for not replying, its been really screwy. I tried unistalling and disableing the other card and activating and installing my nvidia gforce 8400 PCI but it just won't work. Every time I restarted by the time it was supposed to get to the welcome message the screen either stayed blank or showed a screwed up bunch of colors. I don't know, I'm not going to bother with it anymore because it got so it wouldn't start up at all and I had to do a full system recovery. But there is good news about the recovery, it seems to have fixed the registry. I got the task pane back and all the folder options are back as well. None of my files were deleted either.

So, it looks like I may be little better off now, but it looks like I'll never get the vidcard to work.

Thanks anyway guys <<S>>



The Screwed One

[FLOTSOM]

Regardless of the intentions, if anyone makes bad recommendations, I will let everyone know it is bad.  A personal message is not going to solve the problem created by bad recommendations.  There are many people in this forum who have a good deal of valuable information and are willing to help.  I am glad they are here.

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I find it ironic you ask me to PM him for making seriously incorrect recommendations which can screw up someones computer, and then you call me out publicly, for pointing out to everyone the information is wrong and he needs to stop making a habit of doing it.

my point to it was to establish 2 things;

first, that you may not have considered just how insulting and degrading it is to be dragged on the carpet, even in a polite manner, in a public venue. if you make people afraid to speak at all because they may be rebuked then when they do have something to say they may never say anything at all. you have the confidence and conviction to be able to handle a little critisism without flinching, drdeathx may or may not.

second, if you had corrected the bad information with a corrective post in the forum and then sent him a PM letting him know that you appreciate his trying to help, but that in this instance he is wrong and that it would be better if he edited his post, it would get both the correct information out and avoid embarassing someone for wrongfully placed good intentions.

i have nothing but respect for you Skuzzy, (if i did not hold your skill in high regard i would never bother to ask your advice) and in no way was i intending to be disparaging towards you. i apologize if that is how it came across. i have seen to many smart people belittle and shame others of less knowledge in these forums and have developed a mental rash towards it. so forgive me if i spoke out of turn here. you are looked up to and respected by everyone that i have had any dealings with in aces high, so when you rubute someone publically it carries alot of weight. maybe more so than you give yourself credit for.

i dont wanna see someone who was willing to help, where most who could would not, silenced out of fear of speaking. corrected and made to understand his mistake..... yes, but publically embarassed in the process.......no.

DAMN IT ALLEN WILL YOU TELL US WHAT KIND OF CARD YOU HAD??!!!!!!!

<SALUTE> to you all

FLOTSOM