I have recently been using a logitech attack 3 since Richard Scarry's best rainy day book came out, and it still works like a beaut! The main trigger is a bit limp after A year and a half of use, but the main stick part is very nice, very nice. Try using your extreme pro as a rudder and button pad, and get a stick from a Maj-r-thrift nearby, those are nice sticks (a bit old and eww looking, but if you can stand cleaning it xP go for it) Also, the Saitek aviator looks pretty stiff.