for what it is worth ( very little ) I built my new PC because of the availability of using both the AM2+ and the AM2 processors:
ASUS M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
* CPU Type: Phenom FX / Phenom / Athlon 64 FX / Athlon 64 X2
* FSB: 2600MHz Hyper Transport (5200 MT/s)
* South Bridge: AMD SB600
* Number of Memory Slots: 4×240pin
* Memory Standard: DDR2 1066
* Maximum Memory Supported: 8GB
* Dual Channel Supported: Yes
* PCI Express 2.0 x16: 4 x PCIe x16 with ATI CrossFireX support, @ dual x16; tripple x16 / x8 / x8; or quad x8 modes
* Model #: M3A32-MVPDeluxe/WiFi
while I truely know INTEL does hold the upperhand currently......... I find it is really useless to continue to see people thrash about which is better........ anything starting with an old AMD AthlonXP 2800+ with a 500watt PSU and 1 gig ram PC3200 and an old Ati 9800 Pro 128 meg AGP card will play Aces High in 1024 x768 / or 1280 x 1024 with High Res Textures preloaded and damn near play at max resolution on most LCD screens ( 60 to 75 fps ) running steady......dropping to high 40s/low 50s during scenarios or humongous furballs/smoke/fire 30+ cons
Yes TODAY's E8500 ( this year 2008 ) is by far more powerful than 2 year old AMD Athlon64 X2 6400....which was at the time being compared to I think the E6600 / E6650 / E6700 / E6750 core 2 duo and equivlent type INTEL chips.....
as for overclocking, MrRipley...my MB will allow me unworldly options on overclocking it is unreal....... I can push this AMD X2 6400 to 3.8 on stock heatsink/fan..(mainly due to my Antec900 case's EXCELLENT cooling capability)...and it can even hit 4.15 ghz ( if you don't think so, research it ) if I want to go the water cooling route.......yes with most of it in the BIOS settings...I can easily overclock my memory nearly the same manner....but why would anyone need to do this, when like I mentioned above an old 2.0 ghz single core athlonXP2800 handled the game nearly as well
I must apologize to ImaDot, sorry for highjacking your Thread, Sir......
I knew if I started running with the AMD vs INTEL that I would get people to come a runnin' ..... I was bored......just felt like typing a bunch of useless dribble.......
this is why I keep saying it is user preference.......... sorry for the rambling