Processors - To fan, or not to fan

[drdeathx]

GET LIQUID COOLED!!!!!  ITS AWESOME!!!!   

[MrRiplEy[H]]

GET LIQUID COOLED!!!!!  ITS AWESOME!!!!   

Did that about 4 years ago. Had a pump failure and never bothered to put it back together anymore. 3+ Ghz on air is plenty for my use. If I ever want to get to extreme cooling phase change is the way to go.

[Denholm]

No lol it's a 16" fan rotating at 300 rpm. It gives a whopping 250cfm airflow with 12db noise.

I suppose that's the perfect system for flight simulation? Gets you in the mood of things.

[TilDeath]

Bino those temps are on the hot side. That is a little warm for a cpu under load.

You seriously have no clue...  that temp more then fine.  I take it you didnt see that he has it overclocked to 3.7 hence more voltage to the processor.
Voltage=Heat
DrD=No idea most of the time when he makes comments... (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing)

When talking about processor temps there are a few factors to take into consideration.  One case size, fan flow and number of fans, cabling inside the box (restricts airflow), what is in the box (1 hard disk or 4, how much heat does your video card produce, etc), room temp.  Now research what is the best fan/heatsink choice of what will actually fit in your case, and work with your motherboard. (ie factory heatpipes & heatsinks).

You should know what is your processors TJ Max.  If the TJ Max is 80c and your at 60c yes that's warm, on the other hand if your TJ Max is 115c and your  at 60c your actually cool.  Facts are what is needed and people answering questions you should research the subject if they are not given.

Having been in the business for 24+ years.  Please people research before you tell someone something you think is correct but you actually do NOT have the knowledge to make recommendations

Here is what I like to do, OC it all the way...http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=432597 Not done here looking to break 4ghz on air and be windows/programs stable

[Masherbrum]

You seriously have no clue...  that temp more then fine.  I take it you didnt see that he has it overclocked to 3.7 hence more voltage to the processor.
Voltage=Heat
DrD=No idea most of the time when he makes comments... (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing)

When talking about processor temps there are a few factors to take into consideration.  One case size, fan flow and number of fans, cabling inside the box (restricts airflow), what is in the box (1 hard disk or 4, how much heat does your video card produce, etc), room temp.  Now research what is the best fan/heatsink choice of what will actually fit in your case, and work with your motherboard. (ie factory heatpipes & heatsinks).

You should know what is your processors TJ Max.  If the TJ Max is 80c and your at 60c yes that's warm, on the other hand if your TJ Max is 115c and your  at 60c your actually cool.  Facts are what is needed and people answering questions you should research the subject if they are not given.

Having been in the business for 24+ years.  Please people research before you tell someone something you think is correct but you actually do NOT have the knowledge to make recommendations

Here is what I like to do, OC it all the way...http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=432597 Not done here looking to break 4ghz on air and be windows/programs stable

Excellent post TilDeath.   

[drdeathx]

Nice Tildeath. Starting up I see. If you were in business 24+ years you would have seen a bit warm(and you admited it). Get it. Yes they can run much warmer but if you were a 24+ experienced person and you really got it most would suggest this is warm. The results of heat increases the risk of damage to components and/or premature failure.  A experinced person would understand this. A simple $70 investment can cool a cpu down 15 degrees possibly adding life to the CPU. Most 1+ experienced persons would agree with this statement. Why when someone makes a statement that this is "A LITTLE WARM", they basically freak out. Its not bad advice. Heat is heat no matter room temp, space, case size or fans. 60 degrees is 60 degrees no matter how you cut it. If someone were running stock fan on cpu a small investment may go long.... So don't freak out dude. Max temps are max temps and these temps are advertising rhetoric. Over 60 degrees is getting WARM. Cpu and component life can decrease under warm temps so why not cool it down? Please explain....... I thought these forums were supposed to help people not "Bash"others for giving advise that many more have the same theory. It is not like I thought this one up myself.

[Masherbrum]

With Firefox 3, WMP 9 and AH2 running, according to Speedfan my Core Temps are at 43 and 40 degrees (E8400).   The CPU reading is at 32 degrees.

I have a clean case with IMO, too many fans.   But, I believe the balance of Air In is very close to Air Out.   I also have a clean case, that will get cleaner soon. 

If the case cannot be cleaned up, I'm going to a Lian-Li PC7 Plus case.   

[drdeathx]

temps look good!

[drdeathx]

try getting a cpu stress test software and  examine temps. Looks fine. You can find CPU stress test software free if you do a search.

[MrRiplEy[H]]

I'm not worried about my cpu burning up at all, if that happens I can get a new and faster one for about the same price.

And they won't burn up in 6-12months even if they run a little hot so that's plenty of life for a cpu.

[TilDeath]

Nice Tildeath. Starting up I see. If you were in business 24+ years you would have seen a bit warm(and you admited it). Get it. Yes they can run much warmer but if you were a 24+ experienced person and you really got it most would suggest this is warm. The results of heat increases the risk of damage to components and/or premature failure.  A experinced person would understand this. A simple $70 investment can cool a cpu down 15 degrees possibly adding life to the CPU. Most 1+ experienced persons would agree with this statement. Why when someone makes a statement that this is "A LITTLE WARM", they basically freak out. Its not bad advice. Heat is heat no matter room temp, space, case size or fans. 60 degrees is 60 degrees no matter how you cut it. If someone were running stock fan on cpu a small investment may go long.... So don't freak out dude. Max temps are max temps and these temps are advertising rhetoric. Over 60 degrees is getting WARM. Cpu and component life can decrease under warm temps so why not cool it down? Please explain....... I thought these forums were supposed to help people not "Bash"others for giving advise that many more have the same theory. It is not like I thought this one up myself.

Back to the BASICS of what he stated, he said OVERCLOCKED to 3.7  Hence Temp increase.  When overclocking your not looking to ADD processor life.  Also 60c is still some processors no load temp at idle.  So you MUST know the processors TJ Max.  You state "Max temps are max temps and these temps are advertising rhetoric" well the TJ Max is put out by the chip maker, Intel, AMD, so I guess they don't know what they are talking about with this "advertising rhetoric"  as stated in my first post here, Get the facts first then comment and make suggestions.  You been called on the carpet many times in these forums about your FIXES and suggestions.

[Skuzzy]

It was not uncommon for an Intel Prescott CPU to run at 80C, under load.  If you could get the idle temperature to 45C, on air, you were doing well.  60C, for a Prescott, is really about average.

[drdeathx]

I really think more comments tildeath are meaningless at this time. I think its a dead issue.