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Offline Steve

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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #45 on: October 24, 2008, 11:57:19 AM »
Combine a 20mm with a couple tightly clustered 12.7's, and you've got an easy 3-6 kills/flight. 


Easy 3-6 kills huh?  easy? 3-6? Do you know how many people average 3 or better kills per flight in any plane?  Very few.

I'm calling BS on "easy 3-6/flight."
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #46 on: October 24, 2008, 04:08:15 PM »
Easy 3-6 kills huh?  easy? 3-6? Do you know how many people average 3 or better kills per flight in any plane?  Very few.

I'm calling BS on "easy 3-6/flight."

Six might be stretching but when I was flying the 9U a lot 3-4 per sortie was pretty common.
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #47 on: October 24, 2008, 05:11:28 PM »
Issue for the Yak and how many kills per sortie isnt one of hitting power and ammo load but of fuel range. Especially for the Yak T.

If your flying to intercept between locations rather then taking the dweeb option of picking over fields fuel range is the biggest limiting factor to the Yak especially  during off peek times.


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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #48 on: October 24, 2008, 07:31:15 PM »
9 out of 10 yaks you see a good sticks who have realised that the yak can go get and land 2 - 3 kill sorties all day long.
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #49 on: October 25, 2008, 03:45:29 AM »
Combine a 20mm with a couple tightly clustered 12.7's, and you've got an easy 3-6 kills/flight. 

Errr... Do you have another logon or something? As I can't see when you've ever flown the Yak recently and your last stats go back to tour 100 with 7 kills and 3 deaths.  :rolleyes:

If your going to make such statements about a particular ride you need to be able to back it up.


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« Last Edit: October 25, 2008, 03:48:57 AM by Gixer »

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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2008, 05:05:11 PM »
Took a Yak up the other day. Jumped a P-47, aimed for the wing, and as I was flying by I saw the wing was still on and now I was in front of 8 0.50s. :uhoh

Had "E", rolled hard and slowed him a bit more. Then I went vertical on him, "he must have been a noob", cause he tried staying with me and I had him low, slow, and helpless. Took my time got right back on his "6", got some hits in, and he ended up crashing. I'd like to say the combination of weak Yak guns and Jug toughness is what blew my first pass but the reality is that "I" blew my first pass. Against a good Jug driver I would have had a problem.

I still dont think the Yaks guns are that bad. And any supposed deficiency the airplane itself makes up for. This is a really good 20 eny airplane and like a 109-K4 if you put a really good stick in it then you could have a serious problem. And like the K4 when I see a Yak I assume the guy in it is good. Neither one are airplanes noobs jump in.
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2008, 10:58:48 PM »
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #52 on: October 31, 2008, 09:48:34 AM »
I keep trying with the 9T but it is rare for me to hit with the 37mm.  When it does it is a great feeling though.

Did real well with one a few FSO's ago.

Haven't been up in the 9U for a while.  Maybe next tour I'll try to concentrate on it.
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #53 on: October 31, 2008, 06:07:05 PM »
I keep trying with the 9T but it is rare for me to hit with the 37mm.  When it does it is a great feeling though.

Did real well with one a few FSO's ago.

Haven't been up in the 9U for a while.  Maybe next tour I'll try to concentrate on it.

Great feeling for sure, it's like crack! Yak U is better in every regards and feels like it should be perked after flying the T but just not as rewarding as the 37mm when you hit things.

Gunnery for the 37mm you have to fly for snap shots and as if your trying to collide with the con then at the last moment fire. As timing improves you can extend the ranges, but even now after flying only the T for six months I only bank myself for hits under D200 with 1 shot.

I find a good method to practice with the 37mm is against the drones offline. Not by flying up on their six, but flying in clockwise direction taking snap shots HO at different angles and throw in the odd roll. Start off with the B24 and work your way towards hitting the fighters.

Also diving in at high speed co alt and taking 90 deg snap shots is good practice on drones as well.


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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #54 on: November 03, 2008, 06:05:36 AM »
Flew an FSO frame a few months back, 2 air to ground kills, 2 assists, and then 3 air to air kills. Eventually I was able to get clear and go land that 5 kill sortie.  :) Yak9t is sweet when you can hit with it. And the answer to that is like anything else, practice practice practice.

As to the Yak9U, with practice it really is not that hard to start getting 3 kill sorties regular.
Granted you see guys land more than that now & then, but really not consistantly.

With decent flying skills, and a bit of flying smart the Yak will do it consistently.


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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #55 on: November 03, 2008, 06:06:44 AM »
LOL No fuzeman, wasn't thinking of you at all. :)

Just that every now and then you get some 2 week wonder in a yak and its easy meat.
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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #56 on: November 03, 2008, 01:42:46 PM »
Easy 3-6 kills huh?  easy? 3-6? Do you know how many people average 3 or better kills per flight in any plane?  Very few.

I'm calling BS on "easy 3-6/flight."

Call BS all you want, but your right I should have worded it easy 3-4, occasional 5-6.  Kill me now for such an egregious oversight.

Errr... Do you have another logon or something? As I can't see when you've ever flown the Yak recently and your last stats go back to tour 100 with 7 kills and 3 deaths.  :rolleyes:

If your going to make such statements about a particular ride you need to be able to back it up.

Didn't think of you to be one for such call outs Gixer. 

I used to fly the 9u as my main ride, but have lately been switching things up a bit.  Can't seem to get her to turn like I used to.  Anyway, still a great bird well worth using if you are working on gunnery. 

Pretty sure that could be interpreted as "I haven't flown it much lately, but back when I did..."

Anyway, love to see how quick you guys are to jump a simple comment.

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Re: Why is the Yak-9U so underestimated?
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2008, 10:28:01 AM »
As an addition to my "Yak-Files", three times this past weekend or Monday night, I got into big trouble on the deck with no E, and managed to fly away to tell about it by flying into the the nearest forest and dodging in and out and between trees where larger aircraft cannot follow... its crazy fun to do that too, whether you crash and burn or not. 

The best was with a P51 and an LA7 all over me, they shot off both flaps, an elevator, and the right machinegun, but the LA7 augered trying to keep with me, and the P51 decided not to follow through one of the smaller gaps in the trees I managed to make it through, once he was 1000 back I pulled into a shallow climb up to 6.5k where the 9U gets its best low level speed and ran in a straight line.  I saw some rounds whiz past from below after a couple minutes later but the P51 then fell behind and I landed 2 kills :aok .

I'm sure he was saying "there goes another Run-Yak" but it was fun as hell!
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