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Offline Saxman

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« on: November 08, 2008, 08:55:50 AM »
Out of sheer morbid curiosity I decided I'd get an estimate of just how many D3As my ten F4Fs of VMF-251 tangled with over Midway. After noting down each pilot we shot down or were shot down by, I used my list to identify which squadrons were involved and to form an estimate from that. I kinda wish I hadn't because I'm going to need a new pair of shorts.

We were attacked by a strike force of seven different squadrons, combined for a total of 53 D3As.

 :O

Ten F4Fs against over FIFTY bombers. That was nearly HALF the Axis' minimum requirement of D3As. We shot down 21, and my wingman and I accounted for 13 of them. I counted about 49 individual holes in my plane.

I've been outnumbered in FSO before, but good fricken' GOD!
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Re: O_O
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 09:40:59 AM »
Quote from: Saxman on November 08, 2008, 08:55:50 AM
Out of sheer morbid curiosity I decided I'd get an estimate of just how many D3As my ten F4Fs of VMF-251 tangled with over Midway. After noting down each pilot we shot down or were shot down by, I used my list to identify which squadrons were involved and to form an estimate from that. I kinda wish I hadn't because I'm going to need a new pair of shorts.

We were attacked by a strike force of seven different squadrons, combined for a total of 53 D3As.

 :O

Ten F4Fs against over FIFTY bombers. That was nearly HALF the Axis' minimum requirement of D3As. We shot down 21, and my wingman and I accounted for 13 of them. I counted about 49 individual holes in my plane.

I've been outnumbered in FSO before, but good fricken' GOD!


well good thing I can pee harder than they can shoot! sounds like you had an easy fun time---> wtg.
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Offline Fencer51

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Re: O_O
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 10:01:33 AM »
Target

Rich

Environment

And your complaining?  :lol
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Offline Anaxogoras

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Re: O_O
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2008, 10:04:17 AM »
Yeah, that's a fighter pilot's dream, right there.
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Offline Saxman

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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2008, 10:08:49 AM »
To be honest, I'd have preferred to face about 20 Zeros and 20 D3As. Our intent was to sit at high altitude making fast diving passes to blow through the escorts and pick away at the bombers. As it was we took down about a third of them and they STILL had enough firepower to level the field.

There were some magic bullets in those bb's, because I think everyone in my squadron except my wingman and I (and one who went down in a collision) took pilot wounds.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 10:12:07 AM by Saxman »
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Offline FiLtH

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Re: O_O
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2008, 11:30:37 AM »
   WTG! Sounds awesome.  Thats a carrier's worth of D3s ya killed :)
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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2008, 11:55:35 AM »
Wow Sax. Sweet!
Target rich is right.

My squad a few years back engaged some Zekes, Val's and finally Kates one frame. An early war Pacific FSO much like this one. Like your squad we had a LOT of kills.
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Offline Nefarious

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Re: O_O
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2008, 12:54:17 PM »
I was one of the Vals that hit Midway Island. There was so many aircraft over Midway it looked like a swarm of bees.

I dropped two gun enplacements, and took some AAA and possibly some Wildcat fire which busted one of my fuel tanks. I turned for 17, but it was sunk halfway there. I then turned for 24 and by the time I landed I head 6 gallons of fuel.

 :aok Fun times.
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Offline DH367th

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Re: O_O
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2008, 01:05:14 PM »
To quote saxman himself why complain?
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Re: O_O
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2008, 11:04:06 PM »
I haven't got a count but I think there was quite a few more than 50 :)

I know I put about a zillion rounds into an F4F before he went boom.  I was shooting at the cockpits of every F4F I could find and was encouraging others to do likewise. :lol
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Offline Saxman

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2008, 11:50:34 PM »
Dantoo,

Based on the D3As we shot down and the ones that shot my guys down I came up with this count:

9 GIAP - 7
613th Pariah - 3
412th Braunco Mustangs - 7
Righteous Vengeance - 7
VF-6 - 8
The Damned - 4
347th - 17

Added together gives 53.

Now I'll admit this is ONLY counting squads I could confirm via kill/death recording in the logs. I didn't check for damage inflicted to Midway see if there was anyone else, but to be honest counting up to 53 was enough. :O

Personally, I'd have gladly traded ten or so kills to accomplishing our assignment. The strike package suffered heavy losses but Midway was still flattened and that's a failure in my book.

I'm glad those D3As only had BBs. I had at LEAST 40 holes in my plane (25 in the left wing, 4-5 in the canopy, maybe 10-15 in the right wing) and lost one of my guns, and my wingman had about 20-30 hits.
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Offline ELD66

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Re: O_O
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2008, 01:11:07 AM »
Quote from: Saxman on November 08, 2008, 11:50:34 PM
Dantoo,

Based on the D3As we shot down and the ones that shot my guys down I came up with this count:

9 GIAP - 7
613th Pariah - 3
412th Braunco Mustangs - 7
Righteous Vengeance - 7
VF-6 - 8
The Damned - 4
347th - 17

Added together gives 53.

Now I'll admit this is ONLY counting squads I could confirm via kill/death recording in the logs. I didn't check for damage inflicted to Midway see if there was anyone else, but to be honest counting up to 53 was enough. :O

Personally, I'd have gladly traded ten or so kills to accomplishing our assignment. The strike package suffered heavy losses but Midway was still flattened and that's a failure in my book.

I'm glad those D3As only had BBs. I had at LEAST 40 holes in my plane (25 in the left wing, 4-5 in the canopy, maybe 10-15 in the right wing) and lost one of my guns, and my wingman had about 20-30 hits.

 Yea we were a bit short....
347th FG (16-21)
357th Death Dragons (4-6)
412th Braunco Mustangs (4-6)
613th SOS Pariah (4-6)
9GIAP VVS RKKA (4-6)
Damned SE (4-6)
LCA (16-21)
Righteous Vengeance (4-6)
The Haze (7-10)
VF-6 FS (7-10)
VFA-169 Excaliburs (11-15)

81-113

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Offline Saxman

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Re: O_O
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2008, 01:29:40 AM »
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Are you telling me the Axis sent their ENTIRE mandatory complement of D3As after Midway?  :confused:

At that point there it just stops being fun. I'm calling Shenanigans.  :mad:
« Last Edit: November 09, 2008, 01:40:21 AM by Saxman »
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Offline 1pLUs44

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Re: O_O
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2008, 02:02:08 AM »
uhoh... Saxman called shenanigans!

*gets broom*
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Offline Noir

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Re: O_O
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2008, 02:11:03 AM »
enjoy, they changed the rule in the allies favour. Now to sink a cv we need 27 D3A1's to hit right on target....not to mention the new 6x50cals, and the wind adjustment.

I don't mind that but a rule change after frame 1 ? After the Axis already lost their cvs ?  :noid
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